Guitar Tech says Teles always buzz. Is he right?

[0le FUZZY]

My guitar tech says that's normal for Teles,

...Weigh tew many psudo-techs in this and udder countrys!!

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cheapo Saga Tele kit guitar

...Sumtimes the beginnin of a story tells the hoe story.

...I'm jes sayin----------------




0le FUZZY

[TelZilla]

Originally Posted by Daddydex

Okay, I'll be the first to say maybe your tech is giving good advice. None of us were present during the conversation. Are you sure he didn't say something like "I can fix this with a fret level and dressing but it is a 75 dollar guitar and if the buzz isn't happening when amplified, I wouldn't worry about it". Maybe something on those lines. Lets not hang the tech without a proper trial.

Dan

I say we hang 'im, then we kill 'im!

[dibber124]

Is this your tech? :

[boris bubbanov]

Originally Posted by GilmourD

I think that tech should be pulled over by the stupid police.

The stupid gear police should go and pick him up for taking money to work on a Saga. It is a Saga, and as far as I know they buzz not because Teles are supposed to buzz but because.........

The Saga is...........

Well, you know what it is.

The next guitar tech will throw you out on the street for wasting his time.


Bubbanov

[sean79]

Originally Posted by TelZilla

I say we hang 'im, then we kill 'im!

I say we stomp him, then we tattoo him, then we hang him, then we kill him.

[Home Grown Tele]

[RibStabsHeart]

Really guys? No fret buzz at all? I don't know if I have my Baja set up too low, but after a little truss rod adjustment the buzzing went down but it's still there. The guy at guitar center said that he couldn't really take out that last little bit of buzz and that it was "normal" as well.. I don't really want to go spend an extra $60+ setting it up somewhere else because of that either... Hmm...

[bmgblues]

Could be a bridge,fret,nut or your playing tecnique. Joe Walsh likes em to buzz. My Tele's dont buzz at all, infact, they are pretty much noise free. Its not inherent to the instrument to make unwanted noise

[JDC]

"normal for Teles, and that unless the buzz comes through the amp (it doesn't) or dampens sustain (it doesn't seem to), I should ignore it."

Not having heard the verbatim exchange, I have to go with Daddydex on this. Your tech MAY have been trying to indicate that it would cost you more to have the frets levelled/crowned than you paid for the guitar. I have no clue what the "going rate" for this is in your area, but I know that I recently paid my tech considerably more than $75 to do the same job.

[lukeness]

What is baffling me about this post is:

How in the world can you afford a guitar tech but can only muster up $75 for a guitar?




For what it's worth, maybe the guitar tech only gets messed-up-guitars to fix... thus the statement "they all buzz". Perhaps all the guitars he works with does buzz. hahaha... sucks for him.

My advice is throw out the guitar before the tech.

[boris bubbanov]

Originally Posted by lukeness

What is baffling me about this post is:

How in the world can you afford a guitar tech but can only muster up $75 for a guitar?

For what it's worth, maybe the guitar tech only gets messed-up-guitars to fix... thus the statement "they all buzz". Perhaps all the guitars he works with does buzz. hahaha... sucks for him.

My advice is throw out the guitar before the tech.

I think this is the best answer so far, no doubt. This is what I was trying to say, just way better said, plus a little more. Thanks,


Bubbanov

[Daddydex]

Originally Posted by boris bubbanov

I think this is the best answer so far, no doubt. This is what I was trying to say, just way better said, plus a little more. Thanks,


Bubbanov

With all the assembling and modding that goes on here I don't see how it can be baffling that someone is putting together a Saga kit or working on 25 dollar guitar for that matter. It is the heart and soul of this forum. It is also a learning process and should be encouraged. We all want even our cheapest guitars to play their best.

If it were me I would be looking for a cheap way to do a level and dress myself. Unfortunately the tools designed for this are cost prohibitive so some of must turn to "techs". Sometimes these guys give some bad advice but I have been around long enough to know that some people only hear what they want to here. I am not saying that this is necessarily the case here but it makes no sense to bash someone when we don't have both sides of the story. What we should be doing is helping this guy solve his problem in some way in which he could save a couple bucks and maybe learn something.

Dan

EDIT: I meant to quote this from a previous post:

What is baffling me about this post is:

How in the world can you afford a guitar tech but can only muster up $75 for a guitar?

[lukeness]

Originally Posted by Daddydex

With all the assembling and modding that goes on here I don't see how it can be baffling that someone is putting together a Saga kit or working on 25 dollar guitar for that matter. It is the heart and soul of this forum. It is also a learning process and should be encouraged. We all want even our cheapest guitars to play their best.

If it were me I would be looking for a cheap way to do a level and dress myself. Unfortunately the tools designed for this are cost prohibitive so some of must turn to "techs". Sometimes these guys give some bad advice but I have been around long enough to know that some people only hear what they want to here. I am not saying that this is necessarily the case here but it makes no sense to bash someone when we don't have both sides of the story. What we should be doing is helping this guy solve his problem in some way in which he could save a couple bucks and maybe learn something.

Dan

EDIT: I meant to quote this from a previous post:

What is baffling me about this post is:

How in the world can you afford a guitar tech but can only muster up $75 for a guitar?

I understand where you're coming from... but I'm just going by the original post... I just think that it's odd to get a $75 kit guitar and hire a guitar tech to "fix" it? Aren't Squier teles about $150 or so? I'm not bashing... it's the nature of internet communication. Reread my post but from a really confused perspective. Perhaps with this icon That's how I felt posting... not bashing. Sorry for the confusion.

[raf]

I think he is confusing "jangle" with buzz

The answer is "No"....

[telechaser]

My Thinline Tele doesn't but it does sound a bit

[Rob DiStefano]

The bottom line is, making a blanket statement that all Teles are gonna have string buzz is just plain ignorant, or stupid, or both.

Y'all know that each guitar must be evaluated on its own uniqueness, and some will allow ultra low action with nary a string rattle let alone string buzz, and some will require an ungodly high action and neck relief just to sound decent.

YMMV, but it shouldn't.

[OaklandA]

I've heard some goofy things come out of tech's mouths but this may take the prize.

He either gave up on setting yours up right and is saying this as a cover, or he's full of crap. Either way find a new tech.

[Wayne Alexander]

In "your original post you say " I suspect the buzzing is due to uneven frets, but I don't want to pay to have the frets fixed on an instrument that only cost $75."

If you have some high frets up the neck, no amount of high action or trussrod adjustments will get rid of fret buzz from high frets.

If that's the problem (you seem not to know enough about guitars to be able to tell) then you have to fix that. If you can't do it you'll have to learn, or to pay someone to do it. If that's the case (I wasn't there, I haven't seen your guitar and I don't know what your tech actually said) you don't have a bad tech, you just have personal unwillingness to get the problem fixed.

[blue metalflake]

Originally Posted by OaklandA

I've heard some goofy things come out of tech's mouths but this may take the prize.

Quite possibly speaking from the other end!

[beep.click]

Originally Posted by cwcowell

Guitar Tech says Teles always buzz. Is he right?

No. Several people told me the same thing when I got my first Strat (copy) back in the 70s. It was dead wrong then, for Strats; it's dead wrong for Strats NOW. It's equally dead wrong for Teles.

But see also below.

My guitar tech says... that unless the buzz comes through the amp (it doesn't) or dampens sustain (it doesn't seem to), I should ignore it.

That strategy actually does make sense, if the buzz isn't making you crazy.

A little more info: I don't get buzz on my guitars unless I want it. The two main reasons are, I'm very patient with setting them up, and I generally play VERY LIGHTLY (so lightly that people have actually noticed and commented on it).

Lately, I've been setting some guitars up to buzz ON PURPOSE. I'm doing this by using less neck relief. For some songs and styles I play -- I WANT to be able to push a little harder, and make the guitar rattle.

Conclusion: it might be more accurate to say "all guitars CAN buzz."

FWIW, it's worth looking at other things besides frets. I bought a new bass a year or so back, and the low E buzzed like crazy. The store put a new STRING on, and the problem went away. I've had TUNERS rattle, too...