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Old December 2nd, 2006, 11:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fender TBX Tone Control

Most of you probably already know what this is, but for those of you that might not, here is the link:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...rol?sku=361264

Here are my questions on it:

1. You can only put roll back the treble half the amount you could before? If so that wouldn't be a problem for me, as I never put it back that much.

2. Say you have strat-ish sounding pickups. If you roll back the bass some, would that result in a more tele-ish sound? (I know it won't be a near identical sound of course, but would it get a more tele-ish feel?)

3. It has a 1 meg resistor. That is the same as 1000k, right? If so, then would it be good for single coils, or would it be to bright? Or could it possibly be the amount of resistance affects thing different due to the unique nature of this pot? I would guess it'd be good for single coils as Fender makes it.

Thanks for any input.

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Old December 3rd, 2006, 12:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Here is a post where I describe the operation of the TBX in detail
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Old December 3rd, 2006, 01:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I looked at your link, and I got confused. I went and looked at Fender's website, and their description of the TBX was different that Musiciansfriend.

According to musiciansfriend, from my understanding, the tone control is "off" in the center detent, at 5. This is the equavalent of an ordinary tone control at 10. Turing it one way will cut the treble, down to whatI would assume would be 5 on an ordinary tone control. Turning the other way won't do anything to treble, but will cut bass in a similar fashion. This is the functioning I'm interested in.

According to Fenders website, it functions normally from 1-5. After five, it switches to something that has less resistance, allowing more bass and treble than normal.

So I'm assuming that musiciansfriend dropped the ball here. But the product they described is what I'm interested in. Is there any product on the market that does what is described?
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Old December 3rd, 2006, 02:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The details in the Musicians Friend catalog says it has a 1meg resistor and a 0.022µF capacitor. It should actually be an 82K resistor. 1meg is the resistance of one of the pot sections. I think that is a typo????

The mid position is "somewhat" like a normal max CW tone pot. AT max CCW, it is almost like a regular tone control except now it has an 82K resistor across the signal. That reduces treble even more. In max CW, it simply adds MORE resistance to the network via the 1M pot, unloading the pickup and coming close to what a delta pot does.

One direction cuts treble, and the other direction attemps to unload the pickup and allow the resonance to peak.

I'm not a big fan of the TBX. I like the delta tone better. It allows you to totally remove the tone circuit and let that baby resonate. I'm probably in the minority since I hardly ever use the tone control anyway.
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Old December 4th, 2006, 07:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have the TBX on my 93 Strat Plus and find it very usefull, I have the Delta Tone on my 2006 60th Anniversary Strat and really like the tone and resonance. If I had to chose between the 2 I'd go with the Delta Tone...it really does make a big differance. The Tbx is much more subtile.
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