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Old February 2nd, 2012, 10:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Pickup recomendation for rock/grunge...

Hi, I'm new in this forum, and first of all, I want to say I've searched to find an answer of this question, but nothing exactly I need...
Maybe I don't know how to find becouse my poor english...

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I have an American Standard Telecaster from 1998.
I'm very happy with the feeling I have when I play the guitar, but maybe I need more punch/volume from the pickups, bridge and neck.

I would like to have a nice overdrive sound with my tube amp, but I need a little more power.. I don't know how to say it...

Do you know wich pickups have my guitar?? I've never changed...

I usually play play Rock / grunge... I'd like to sound like eddie vedder's tele... Pearl Jam in general...
Can you recomend any pickup upgrade??

Can I adjust or do something to my standard pickups, to sound like that??

thanks a lot!!

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Old February 2nd, 2012, 10:59 AM   #2 (permalink)

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What amp and pedals are you using?
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 11:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What amp and pedals are you using?
Hi, I'm using a Traynor YCV20WR

For overdrive I use the chanel specified on the amp or an Ibanez TS9DX.

I have to say, I own a LP Studio with burstbucker pro which I'm glad with the sound I have.
But I don't want my tele sound like my Gibson LP, they are different guitars, but I want my tele, have a little bit more power.. not such difference with the LP...

For example, I have to change a lot the volume and gain pot in my amp, when I change guitars... with my LP I can get a lot more saturation than with the tele.. I know is normal, but I want to have less difference between the two guitars....
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 01:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Harmonic Design makes a set of tele pickups called vintage plus. They deliver the punch I think you're talking about. But more than just being a little higher output, they sound GREAT! They seem to just feel right to me. Still very much tele sounding. I've used them with 250k pots and 500k. The 250k gives them a punchier feel that may be better suited to what you're looking for.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 01:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You might enjoy something like the BG-Pups Rock Winds ... basically less twang and more rock. The only downside is Bryan has about an 8 week backlog.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 06:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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They look great!! But one question.... When you talk about 250k pots or 500k, does it means that i should change the pots and the pickups???

I thought that I only need to change pickups...

What about seymour duncan broadcaster.. I heard good reviews... Are they good for grunge??? They are cheaper....


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Harmonic Design makes a set of tele pickups called vintage plus. They deliver the punch I think you're talking about. But more than just being a little higher output, they sound GREAT! They seem to just feel right to me. Still very much tele sounding. I've used them with 250k pots and 500k. The 250k gives them a punchier feel that may be better suited to what you're looking for.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 06:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I threw an SD Lil 59 in my Tele, and it kept up, no problem, with my LP Custom with PAF-59's.

That lil 59Jr. is a spanker, let me tell ya! High gain, little "Rock-Monster" is what it is! And my Tele sounds nothing like my LP. Sounds like a Tele with a really bad attitude! Haha!

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Old February 2nd, 2012, 06:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Eddie Vedders tele sound...NICE!

I have played around a bit with this and I suspect it is mostly quite a crunchy rock / grunge sound but with the volume on the guitar rolled back, and he plays gently for the quieter warm parts and digs and / or turns the Volume back up when he rocks out.....

Try the volume rolled back a bit trick on your tele and les paul, I think you'll get close with what you have and sometimes it is a magic sound all in itself...

I have recently discovered my Epiphone 60's with burstbuckers sounds really amazing at 8-9 on the volume...especially for the live Betterman intro etc...
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They look great!! But one question.... When you talk about 250k pots or 500k, does it means that i should change the pots and the pickups???

I thought that I only need to change pickups...

What about seymour duncan broadcaster.. I heard good reviews... Are they good for grunge??? They are cheaper....
You probably do not need to change the pots. The choice to use 250k vs. 500k depends on how much brightness you want. 500k results in a brighter tone than 250k. Since single coil pickups tend to be brighter, 250k is the norm to tame that brightness a little.

When I think of a grunge sound, I think of thick, creamy, distorted mids, with a strong base and rounded highs. The Broadcaster will not get you there.

Duncan pickups that fall in this range are the Lil'59 and Quarter Pound set. Neither of these sound very Telecaster-y.

The Donahue bridge pickup will get you close, but it still retains normal Tele character, as will the Alnico Pro 2 set. These sound very Telecaster-y.
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Old February 2nd, 2012, 08:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A GREAT tele rail humbucker is the Dimarzio Super Distortion T. It's an incredible sounding Rock pickup

Not very Tele-Y though....it's clearly a humbucker
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 02:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hey.. Thanks for explanation!!
Do you know how much the standard pots are???

I think maybe to have a 250 pot can really help me....

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You probably do not need to change the pots. The choice to use 250k vs. 500k depends on how much brightness you want. 500k results in a brighter tone than 250k. Since single coil pickups tend to be brighter, 250k is the norm to tame that brightness a little.

When I think of a grunge sound, I think of thick, creamy, distorted mids, with a strong base and rounded highs. The Broadcaster will not get you there.

Duncan pickups that fall in this range are the Lil'59 and Quarter Pound set. Neither of these sound very Telecaster-y.

The Donahue bridge pickup will get you close, but it still retains normal Tele character, as will the Alnico Pro 2 set. These sound very Telecaster-y.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 02:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thnks for advice.. But I don't want to lose the tele character at all... I mean... I want more punch, but in a single coin pickup... For big punch I will use my LP, but for the other things I'd like the Tele... But more agresive sound....

This Dimarzio Super Distortion T are like a Gibson tone??? When you say it's clearly a hambucker maybe I'm scared to feel is the same that my gibson.... what do you think??

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Not very Tele-Y though....it's clearly a humbucker
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 02:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You really don't need to change anything for what you described....just learn to use what you have.
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Eddie Vedders tele sound...NICE!

I have played around a bit with this.....
Which pickups do you mean you have played???
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 02:24 AM   #15 (permalink)
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This is the best option
With the economic situation here in europe.. Is better not spending money....

So, can you tell me some tips???

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You really don't need to change anything for what you described....just learn to use what you have.
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 03:38 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Have you tried to move the pickups up closer to the strings?
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 03:59 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Sometimes I've tought this can help. But I don't know which distance have to be set the pickups to the string....
Do you know in milimeters which dictamce have to be??

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Old February 3rd, 2012, 10:40 AM   #18 (permalink)
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You can run some sustain / boost with a compressor ... The script logo MXR is your best choice, the MXR EVH one is good too -- or mod a new one into the script logo version (I think it's just 1 resistor) .

I like DiMarzio pups if you think you should replace it. I actually have a DP192 (bridge humbucker) in a Strat that I'll never take out because it's 'THAT' sound....
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Well, Eddie's tele has a P-90 in the neck. You could put a p-90 in the neck and tap it to get a more traditional single coil tone as well as the growl of the p-90.
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I don't know if there is a "correct" distance but I would bring the pickups up a bit then try it and adjust a bit more just to see if the sound is improving.
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