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Old March 20th, 2011, 10:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Water slide decals question...

Hi !

I will soon have all the parts to finish my "partcaster"
and I would like to put a custom water slide decal BUT
I don't want to spray clear over my new neck that is
already finished... Will it work ? will it looks clean ??

Thanks !

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Old March 21st, 2011, 02:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Decals are VERY delicate and will flake off unless it's covered with some clear finish
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Old March 21st, 2011, 08:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Decals are VERY delicate and will flake off unless it's covered with some clear finish
There are a lot of Old guitars around with their Decals still intact, that would challenge your statement.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 09:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Spray the decal with several coats before you cut it out, then apply. Ive done two this way, then sprayed one after I applied and one did not. They both turned out well.
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Decals are VERY delicate and will flake off unless it's covered with some clear finish
I don't find this to be true at all. I put decals on top of the lacquer all the time without any negative consequences. No flaking yet.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 11:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't find this to be true at all. I put decals on top of the lacquer all the time without any negative consequences. No flaking yet.
Same here
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Old April 12th, 2011, 11:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Why not just tape off and spray the headstock? That's what I do.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 02:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It doesn't always come out evenly...like with my headstock...
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Old April 14th, 2011, 06:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't find this to be true at all. I put decals on top of the lacquer all the time without any negative consequences. No flaking yet.
Undisturbed, a properly-applied decal with no overcoat won't come off...but if something should scrape against it, there's a strong possibility that it will be damaged.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 06:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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From personal experience, let it dry for a day after you apply it, before you spray it. I got some nice blushing. :-(
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Old April 14th, 2011, 06:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Undisturbed, a properly-applied decal with no overcoat won't come off...but if something should scrape against it, there's a strong possibility that it will be damaged.

This one managed to survive 59 years. I guess it never got scratched.











The point is, if it is properly applied, on top is just fine. If you scrape it hard enough to remove the decal, it would have scraped it hard enough to damage the lacquer as well.
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While experimenting with my own waterslide decals I've applied and removed decals that were applied on top of finishes. They are pretty durable.

I always coat my decals with a couple coats of lacquer before they are applied so that helps. The decals are much more fragile when they are uncoated.

It took a lot of picking and scratching to get them off and I had to re-buff the surface below before putting on a new decal, so yeah, they are delicate if they come in contact with a sharp surface in the wrong place/wrong time, but can be pretty tough once applied.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 08:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Go to

http://www.micromark.com/Decal-Setti...l-oz,9124.html and get yourself some decal setting solution. I use this stuff to flatten and seal decals when a customer does not want it buried with nitro.
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Cool website Rhomco...
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http://www.micromark.com/Decal-Setti...l-oz,9124.html and get yourself some decal setting solution. I use this stuff to flatten and seal decals when a customer does not want it buried with nitro.
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Any idea what that stuff is made of?
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I've heard that that stuff is just repackaged "white vinegar".

I have a bottle of decal setting solution made by Walthers (or bottled by walters) the model train company. It says the ingredients are:

"Methoxy-2-propanol, methoxy-1-propanol"
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I've heard that that stuff is just repackaged "white vinegar".

I have a bottle of decal setting solution made by Walthers (or bottled by walters) the model train company. It says the ingredients are:

"Methoxy-2-propanol, methoxy-1-propanol"
Ive heard the exact same thing. Ive talked to some model train guys, and they told me just to use white vinegar.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 07:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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There are different grades of setting solution...the ones that are made to suck the decals onto contoured surfaces (e.g., rivets and panel lines on an airplane's skin) are more potent than just vinegar...they are chemical-based...but probably overkill for applying a decal to a headstock.
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