The Fender Telecaster Guitar authority in the world. Information on electric guitars, amps, effects, and more. With guitar photo galleries, Free guitar Classified Ads, guitar reviews, music and guitar articles, guitar resources and more.
fender telecaster electric guitar discussion forum and galleries and classifieds and reviews.
Make a donation with PayPal Telecaster Guitars at Ebay Musician's Friend Stupid Deal of the Day

Supporting Vendors
Wilde Pickups by Bill & Becky Lawrence El Dorado Guitar Accessories Lace Music Products Acme Guitar Works Carlton Guitars GuitarSale.com Warmoth.com
advertise on the tdpri 
 

Go Back   Telecaster Guitar Forum > Other Discussion Forums > Tele-Tech

Notices

Tele-Tech Telecaster nuts and bolts talk ONLY

Forum Jump


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old July 27th, 2007, 03:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
TDPRI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Sherwood, Arkansas
Posts: 24
deleting tone pot in G & L Bluesboy

Hello,
I have a question, has anyone ever unwired the tone pot in their tele? How does it sound? The reason I ask is I think tone pots hamper the full tone of the pickup. I don't use the tone pot anyway but I didn't know if it had to be wired up or not.

Thanks,
Greg

__________________
Ahh...the sweet sound of the tele.
gchastine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27th, 2007, 03:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 1,425
You can unwire the tone pot. It is not required to get the signal to the output jack.

The current version of the American Deluxe Telecasters has a tone pot that has a position where it switches itself out of the circuit. Provides slightly more gain. If you replace your tone pot with a similar one to the Deluxe, you have the best of both worlds.
scooteraz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27th, 2007, 09:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
Doctor of Teleocity
 
boris bubbanov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA + in the past
Posts: 15,213
G + L Bluesboy

All the stock Squier 51s are like that, no tone pot at all.
Loosen your control plate and use an alligator clip on your guitar to bypass the pot, to see if you like what you get.
Or you might bypass the tone only on your bridge MFD or your Seth Lover neck pickup.
The setup on the Squier 51 works in part, IMHO, because you can tap the bridge humbucker and then add in the neck single coil, five choices. You'll only have three if you use no tone control. But if yer dimed all the time anyway like Neil Young, yer losing nothing.
boris bubbanov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27th, 2007, 10:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
Tele-Holic
 
6x47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern ON
Age: 65
Posts: 571
Quote:
Originally Posted by gchastine View Post
Hello,
I have a question, has anyone ever unwired the tone pot in their tele? How does it sound?
One of my control plates is set up with a push - pull volume pot.

Nob up is standard wiring, nob down bypasses the tone pot and the volume pot (running the pups straight through with no impedence from 'controls') giving instant increase in volume and a way more treble than if you had the pot set to not bleed off treble.

Seems the tone pot by just being a part of the circuit, dulls the tone even if set on 'full treble'.

Probably get the same result by wiring a toggle switch to the pickup switch output wire so that in one position the signal goes through the controls to output jack while in the other position the signal goes through a new wire to the output jack. I haven't tried this yet.
6x47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 27th, 2007, 10:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
Friend of Leo's
 
aznrambo481's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: La Jolla, California
Age: 18
Posts: 2,902
The inside of a potentiometer is a metal brush connected to the middle lug that runs over a resistive strip. depending on how far it is from one of the sides, you will get a different resistance.



If you scratch of the strip at one of the ends, you have the middle lug not touching the material. at this point, the middle lug(the part that affects the signal) is effectively removed from the capacitor-to-ground circuit controlled by the potentiometer. I believe they make 'em like this, called no-load tone pots. Never tried it.
__________________
Check out my bands, and feel free to PM me comments on them!

The Eclectics (guitar/vocals)

SLIP (bass)
aznrambo481 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2007, 01:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
Tele-Meister
 
chuckamok63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Chicago Il
Age: 46
Posts: 105
or If you're not so sure about ripping apart your pots you can just purchase a no-load pot and bypass the scraping. When the pot is at "10" the pot is out of the circuit. Very cool sound, kind of "the push over the top/it goes to 11"
chuckamok63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 28th, 2007, 06:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 1,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by aznrambo481 View Post
The inside of a potentiometer is a metal brush connected to the middle lug that runs over a resistive strip. depending on how far it is from one of the sides, you will get a different resistance.



If you scratch of the strip at one of the ends, you have the middle lug not touching the material. at this point, the middle lug(the part that affects the signal) is effectively removed from the capacitor-to-ground circuit controlled by the potentiometer. I believe they make 'em like this, called no-load tone pots. Never tried it.
While this can be done, it is usually more trouble than it is worth with sealed pots (most new pots). The problem is getting them apart in the first place (you can, but sealed means sealed, so you have to cleanly break the seal) then back together cleanly. Remember, any additional dirt in the pot will be additional scratchiness when you use it. If you want to, have at it, just saying forewarned is forearmed.

Quote:
or If you're not so sure about ripping apart your pots you can just purchase a no-load pot and bypass the scraping. When the pot is at "10" the pot is out of the circuit. Very cool sound, kind of "the push over the top/it goes to 11"
This is the appropriate method.

You can get such pots here: http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/250K_...TS__P34C14.cfm

I have no affiliation, just have had good experiences.
scooteraz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump




IMPORTANT:Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult! No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.