Shielding question - yes, another one

[Nick88]

Hello all, i'm new to this forum (it's great by the way)

I'm building a budget telecaster for the first time, and have a question about grounding the shielding
the attatched picture is of my pickups, and i've circled the metal ring things on the ground wires.
Will i be able to simply screw these onto the copper shielding tape to effectively ground the shielding? or is likely to lead to problems?

Thanks.

[guitarzan13]

Welcome to our addiction!! Lots of nice people and a welth of knowledge. I would personally clip them and solder. I would also get GFS pups instead....if you have not bought these already. GREAT pups for a small price. Check um out...
http://store.guitarfetish.com/singlecoil.html

[Nick88]

Originally Posted by guitarzan13

Welcome to our addiction!! Lots of nice people and a welth of knowledge. I would personally clip them and solder. I would also get GFS pups instead....if you have not bought these already. GREAT pups for a small price. Check um out...
http://store.guitarfetish.com/singlecoil.html

i've actually allready bought these - got them for £20 (about $40 USD) from ebay

by clip them under, do you mean under the copper tape? surely i would get the same results from just soldering/screwing them on top?

are they actually meant for grounding the shielding?

Thanks for the reply

[guitarzan13]

Sorry.... I meant clip ther terminals off and solder them to the pots
Here is a good way
http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/shielding/tele.php

[Nick88]

Originally Posted by guitarzan13

Sorry.... I meant clip ther terminals off and solder them to the pots
Here is a good way
http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/shielding/tele.php

what are the terminals for then? surely they have a purpose - if so i dont want to clip them off

so the only way to ground the shielding is to run a wire from the p'up cavity to the control cavity? cant these terminals be used to ground it, as it would save soldering another wire to the volume pot (and i'm not a very confident or skilled solderer)

thanks again

[BritishBluesBoy]

Have a look here...

http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/shielding/tele.php

(PS - say 'Hi' to Brighton for me...)

BBB.

[Nick88]

Originally Posted by BritishBluesBoy

Have a look here...

http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/shielding/tele.php

(PS - say 'Hi' to Brighton for me...)

BBB.

Brighton says 'Hi' back. Have you been here?

and thanks for the link

[Tdot]

Originally Posted by Nick88

what are the terminals for then? surely they have a purpose - if so i dont want to clip them off

I can only imagine it made the factory assembly easier/faster somehow. I plan to pull my '91 MIM apart today. I'll post photos of the "terminal" attached to the height adjustment screw, and the control wire soldered to it.

[HiggyDude]

Originally Posted by Nick88

what are the terminals for then? surely they have a purpose - if so i dont want to clip them off

so the only way to ground the shielding is to run a wire from the p'up cavity to the control cavity? cant these terminals be used to ground it, as it would save soldering another wire to the volume pot (and i'm not a very confident or skilled solderer)

thanks again

I see no reason why you cannot use the terminals. If you want even more shielding info check out my website (below). It chronicles the building of my partscaster and has a whole section on shielding the pup cavities - with close-up and hi-res pics.

Try using the terminals first - if it doesn't work cut them off and hit the solder...

[Tdot]

Here are a few view angles of the (short) black pup wire with the terminal held to the bridge plate by screw. A second (long) black wire is soldered to the terminal and continues to controls.

[BritishBluesBoy]

Originally Posted by Nick88

Brighton says 'Hi' back. Have you been here?

and thanks for the link

Yep... I'm from London... My sister lives in Brighton... I'm there a couple of times a year...

Cool.

BBB.

[chickenpicker]

Hi Nick88. Welcome.

There's no reason why you can't just use a woodscrew to connect a terminal to shielding tape. Over time I suppose there could be corrosion, and that might affect the join, but you'd probably never notice it.

You must make sure though, that the shielding tape and the metal parts of the guitar are all connected to the ground side of your output jack, otherwise it won't work.

[Nick88]

Originally Posted by HiggyDude

I see no reason why you cannot use the terminals. If you want even more shielding info check out my website (below). It chronicles the building of my partscaster and has a whole section on shielding the pup cavities - with close-up and hi-res pics.

Try using the terminals first - if it doesn't work cut them off and hit the solder...

Thanks for that link to your website, however, i've allready got it bookmarked in my favourites and it is very useful reading.

It's people like you who share their wisdom with the rest of us who make the internet a happy place

Originally Posted by Tdot

Here are a few view angles of the (short) black pup wire with the terminal held to the bridge plate by screw. A second (long) black wire is soldered to the terminal and continues to controls.

wow, those photos are VERY useful. i'd have never thought to tuck the terminal in there. thanks

Originally Posted by chickenpicker

Hi Nick88. Welcome.

There's no reason why you can't just use a woodscrew to connect a terminal to shielding tape. Over time I suppose there could be corrosion, and that might affect the join, but you'd probably never notice it.

You must make sure though, that the shielding tape and the metal parts of the guitar are all connected to the ground side of your output jack, otherwise it won't work.

I think that i will use the terminals to ground the shielding as you said - i'm then gonna solder it down, just to be sure

i'm also gonna run a wire through to the bridge to ground it, and a wire through to the neck p'up cavity from the control cavity, and so actually ground the bridge and neck p'up cavity twice - better safe than sorry


thanks again for all the help and the very warm welcome