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amgleft · September 5th, 2009, 12:46 AM

Hello, I am making a lap steel guitar and I would like to wire it this way:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...tic=esquire_hb

I found a post here where someone wanted to do a similar thing except the other way, switching from a gibson 3 way to a blade:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-tech...ele-style.html

I'm hoping I could get a similar explaination about how to translate the blade style switch used in the wiring diagram above to the gibson style switch.

Thanks.

- anthony

cc9cii · September 5th, 2009, 02:30 AM

Need gibson toggle switch such as this one from Stewmac.

HTH & YMMV

EDIT: should have drawn it as a hotrail, too late now

EDIT2: also forgot to add the ground wire to the toggle switch

amgleft · September 5th, 2009, 03:12 AM

Thanks for the quick response.

a couple clarifications:
1. the type of switch I have is like this one:
http://www.smarter.com/guitar-access...pi-306696.html

which has 4 connections on the bottom (similar to the gibson type described in the seymour duncan diagram: http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...atic=3ws_trans)

Sorry, I'm really new to this and need it all explained, including where the ground wire would go. I can follow the directions but I don't understand the "why?" well enough to adjust to anything not clearly addressed in a diagram.

thanks again.

cc9cii · September 5th, 2009, 03:24 AM

Looks like 3 lugs on that switch in the first link, if so you can't use that. If you have one of those on/on/on toggle switches (in the second link you gave) then you can use that. I guess you'll have to buy another switch.

An explanation of the on/on/on toggle is given in the Stewmac link I provided. If you finalise on your switch post the details - I'll then modify the diagram to suit that switch.

EDIT: here is an update

Deaf Eddie · September 5th, 2009, 12:49 PM

It can't be done with the switch you have - not enough poles and contacts. You CAN do it with an on/on/on mini-toggle as described above.

amgleft · September 5th, 2009, 09:42 PM

Thanks cc9cii. I'll need to get a new switch, so I think I will get the one you recommended from stewmac if my local electronics store (DuVac in pasadena) doesn't have one.

So I need a DPDT switch right? What does the "throw" part refer to? I think I understand the pole part? Thanks again.

cc9cii · September 5th, 2009, 09:45 PM

Can't use DPDT. You need DP3T on/on/on, where 'throw' refers to the number of positions.

amgleft · September 5th, 2009, 09:49 PM

ah, I see. Thanks for the quick response I was just about to go to see if I could get it and I would've gotten the wrong thing AGAIN! good catch :-)

amgleft · September 5th, 2009, 09:51 PM

actually, looking again at the stewmac link, they refer to the switch as a "DPDT, on-on-on switch. curiouser and curiouser...

cc9cii · September 5th, 2009, 10:07 PM

Good eye. Unfortunately some people misuse the term DPDT.

September 5th, 2009, 12:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
amgleft NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 5	1 Hotrail, 1 Volume, 1 Tone with Gibson style 3 way switch? Hello, I am making a lap steel guitar and I would like to wire it this way: http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...tic=esquire_hb I found a post here where someone wanted to do a similar thing except the other way, switching from a gibson 3 way to a blade: http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-tech...ele-style.html I'm hoping I could get a similar explaination about how to translate the blade style switch used in the wiring diagram above to the gibson style switch. Thanks. - anthony

September 5th, 2009, 03:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
amgleft NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 5	thanks...and sorry I wasn't totally clear Thanks for the quick response. a couple clarifications: 1. the type of switch I have is like this one: http://www.smarter.com/guitar-access...pi-306696.html which has 4 connections on the bottom (similar to the gibson type described in the seymour duncan diagram: http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...atic=3ws_trans) Sorry, I'm really new to this and need it all explained, including where the ground wire would go. I can follow the directions but I don't understand the "why?" well enough to adjust to anything not clearly addressed in a diagram. thanks again.

September 5th, 2009, 03:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
cc9cii Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 771	Looks like 3 lugs on that switch in the first link, if so you can't use that. If you have one of those on/on/on toggle switches (in the second link you gave) then you can use that. I guess you'll have to buy another switch. An explanation of the on/on/on toggle is given in the Stewmac link I provided. If you finalise on your switch post the details - I'll then modify the diagram to suit that switch. EDIT: here is an update Last edited by cc9cii; September 5th, 2009 at 04:44 AM.

September 5th, 2009, 12:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Deaf Eddie Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego, CA Posts: 1,741 14 Photos	It can't be done with the switch you have - not enough poles and contacts. You CAN do it with an on/on/on mini-toggle as described above. __________________ YMMV - I been wrong before...

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September 5th, 2009, 02:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
cc9cii Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 771	Need gibson toggle switch such as this one from Stewmac. HTH & YMMV EDIT: should have drawn it as a hotrail, too late now EDIT2: also forgot to add the ground wire to the toggle switch

September 5th, 2009, 09:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
amgleft NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 5	Thanks cc9cii. I'll need to get a new switch, so I think I will get the one you recommended from stewmac if my local electronics store (DuVac in pasadena) doesn't have one. So I need a DPDT switch right? What does the "throw" part refer to? I think I understand the pole part? Thanks again.

September 5th, 2009, 09:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
cc9cii Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 771	Can't use DPDT. You need DP3T on/on/on, where 'throw' refers to the number of positions.

September 5th, 2009, 09:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
amgleft NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 5	ah, I see. Thanks for the quick response I was just about to go to see if I could get it and I would've gotten the wrong thing AGAIN! good catch :-)

September 5th, 2009, 09:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
amgleft NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 5	actually, looking again at the stewmac link, they refer to the switch as a "DPDT, on-on-on switch. curiouser and curiouser...

September 5th, 2009, 10:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
cc9cii Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 771	Good eye. Unfortunately some people misuse the term DPDT.

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