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klabuster · January 20th, 2009, 04:25 PM

Hi everybody,

I am trying to figure out how to wire the controls for my current frankenstein tele derivate. The configuration looks like this:
1 humbucker (SD Seth Lover) at the neck, a single coil (G&L at the bridge, 1 vol and 1 tone control and a les paul style 3 way toggle switch on a Tele Custom style pickguard. The output jack is mounted to the pickguard as well.

The HB is to be connected to the volume pot only (ie no tone control) while the SC goes to both, volume and tone.

Help will be highly appreciated. To make it more convenient, I've sketched the components in the attached image, so may be you can simply draw directly into it...

Thanks upfront!

Be good,
Alex

jkingma · January 20th, 2009, 04:31 PM

I believe you will have to have 2 separate volume controls if you only want one pickup to be connected to a tone.

Chris Leger · January 20th, 2009, 04:43 PM

It can be done. I'd run your tone-controlled pickup over the tone pot *first*. Then from there, along with your other pickup, to the switch, then back to the volume & then the jack.

Know what I mean? I'm too lazy to draw...

jkingma · January 20th, 2009, 05:15 PM

Won't the tone pot affect both pickups in the middle position... even wired that way?

Chris Leger · January 20th, 2009, 05:24 PM

Hmm... you're right, it would. Only way to do it with a Gibson toggle, I'm afraid.

The tone would be cut out in the "humbucker-only" Position, but it would come on in the middle and SC positions because the outs are common on a Gibson toggle in the middle position.

Deaf Eddie · January 21st, 2009, 12:33 PM

The tone pot is ALWAYS gonna affect both pups when both are on - PERIOD. No way around that.

The correct way to wire what you seem to be after - at least, no tone on the humbucker played solo - would be to run both pups to the toggle, then the volume pot, then the output jack. Connect the tone pot to the toggle on the same lug as the G&L bridge pup.

Wired that way, you get the humbucker solo with no tone. The "both" and bridge solo throws WILL have the tone pot, no way around that.

Deaf Eddie · January 21st, 2009, 12:50 PM

klabuster · January 21st, 2009, 04:08 PM

Thank you all for replying, especially Eddie for the diagram!
As I rarely use the middle position, affecting both pickups shouldn't be an issue.

Thanks again!

Alex

January 20th, 2009, 04:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
jkingma Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: N43° 11.943 ~ W079° 35.285 Posts: 3,091 18 Photos	I believe you will have to have 2 separate volume controls if you only want one pickup to be connected to a tone. __________________ Creator of Fine Sawdust and Expensive Kindling.

January 20th, 2009, 05:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
jkingma Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: N43° 11.943 ~ W079° 35.285 Posts: 3,091 18 Photos	Won't the tone pot affect both pickups in the middle position... even wired that way? __________________ Creator of Fine Sawdust and Expensive Kindling.

January 21st, 2009, 12:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Deaf Eddie Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego, CA Posts: 1,741 14 Photos	The tone pot is ALWAYS gonna affect both pups when both are on - PERIOD. No way around that. The correct way to wire what you seem to be after - at least, no tone on the humbucker played solo - would be to run both pups to the toggle, then the volume pot, then the output jack. Connect the tone pot to the toggle on the same lug as the G&L bridge pup. Wired that way, you get the humbucker solo with no tone. The "both" and bridge solo throws WILL have the tone pot, no way around that. __________________ YMMV - I been wrong before...

January 21st, 2009, 12:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Deaf Eddie Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego, CA Posts: 1,741 14 Photos	__________________ YMMV - I been wrong before...

January 20th, 2009, 04:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Chris Leger Banned Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Hampshire Age: 44 Posts: 923 2 Photos	It can be done. I'd run your tone-controlled pickup over the tone pot first. Then from there, along with your other pickup, to the switch, then back to the volume & then the jack. Know what I mean? I'm too lazy to draw...

January 20th, 2009, 05:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chris Leger Banned Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Hampshire Age: 44 Posts: 923 2 Photos	Hmm... you're right, it would. Only way to do it with a Gibson toggle, I'm afraid. The tone would be cut out in the "humbucker-only" Position, but it would come on in the middle and SC positions because the outs are common on a Gibson toggle in the middle position.

January 21st, 2009, 04:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
klabuster NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 4	Thank you all for replying, especially Eddie for the diagram! As I rarely use the middle position, affecting both pickups shouldn't be an issue. Thanks again! Alex

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