Is there such a thing as straplocks that don't suck?

psychotelepathic · October 13th, 2008, 01:04 AM

I think I've tried all types. The Schaellers, the Dunlops, the pick-shaped plastic washers, etc. Are there any that don't suck? Maybe I"m missing something. The Schaellers work, but I hate the creaking and the way they work themselves out of the hole. Anyone happy with others?

Chris Leger · October 13th, 2008, 01:20 AM

I switched to these years ago, after screwing with Schallers for far too long:

http://www.allparts.com/store/hardwa...10,Product.asp

They DO NOT come off. No moving parts, etc.

gitlvr · October 13th, 2008, 01:23 AM

I've used schallers for 20+ years. Never had a single problem. Yes, they creak sometimes. But I'll gladly put up with a little creaking noise that nobody but me hears anyway in exchange for the 100% reliability they've delivered. They're the only strap locks that go on my guitars.

Stuco · October 13th, 2008, 01:34 AM

I personally don't like strap locks. The oversized strap buttons are a good option. There are also those black plastic type that are kind of rectangular shaped that seem like they would work well. I don't know who makes them though.

rodeo_joel · October 13th, 2008, 02:20 AM

the dunlops work great for me, i like how they don't stick out on the strap like the head on the schaellers do. the flat top makes them look a little more sleek. I think they're fairly sturdy, but then on a tele (a guitar that's relatively light) you're not putting them under a great deal of weight anyways.

Skrik · October 13th, 2008, 02:34 AM

http://www.rockinger.com/index.php?c...&product=0819S
or
http://www.rockinger.com/index.php?c...F0815S%2F0815G

andrewb · October 13th, 2008, 03:30 AM

iv used schallers for years
they are fine...
i use longer screws...
throw some graphite on them when i change strings....

never had a problem

A.B.Negative · October 13th, 2008, 05:38 AM

The rubber gaskets from Grolsch "flip top" beer bottles have never let me down, and you get a free beer with each straplock! Also available without the beer from http://www.homebrewery.com for $7.50 a hundred.

Jonas_Carlson · October 13th, 2008, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.B.Negative

The rubber gaskets from Grolsch "flip top" beer bottles have never let me down...

Picture(s). Please.

/Jonas

musicalmartin · October 13th, 2008, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.B.Negative

The rubber gaskets from Grolsch "flip top" beer bottles have never let me down, and you get a free beer with each straplock! Also available without the beer from http://www.homebrewery.com for $7.50 a hundred.

+1 .. they work great, just picture a red neoprene washer that stretches over the strap button to keep the strap on ,Its that simple.

A.B.Negative · October 13th, 2008, 07:15 AM

Here's some Grolsch pics

Dave_Strat · October 13th, 2008, 08:32 AM

These work great and are cheap enough to buy a set for every guitar you own. I have one set that is twenty years old and still going.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardware...ap_System.html

viking · October 13th, 2008, 11:02 AM

Ive never used straplocks , and dont think I will. Its a habit thing , I guess , I always have one hand on the guitar. The ones from Rockinger , with the big " nut " that screws into the end pin , is the neatest design , IMO....

charlie chitlin · October 13th, 2008, 11:04 AM

I bought a set of the Stew-Mac cheapies just out of curiosity.
They work, but are a little fugly.
If I'm going with fuglly (and I am), I'll use a 10 cent fender washer.
Unscrew the button, put on the washer, put on the strap, then screw it back on the geetar.
It's cheap, simple perfection. But the strap has to stay on.
In 30 years, I've never seen a case where the strap had to come off for the guitar to fit, nor have I seen a strap damage a finish.

TyPierce · October 13th, 2008, 01:32 PM

Not exactly classic Fender, but I'm a big big fan of the Gretsch strap buttons that screw on over your strap. Maybe not as Quickdraw McGraw as some of the other options out there, but they work really well.

manfesto · October 13th, 2008, 01:37 PM

I guess I'm missing something - why exactly do most straplocks suck? Do most not keep the strap on the guitar? Or make weird noises? Or are cumbersome to use?

//Has used the Dunlop ones on most of my guitars for years, was never aware they were sucky

Chris Leger · October 13th, 2008, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manfesto

I guess I'm missing something - why exactly do most straplocks suck? Do most not keep the strap on the guitar? Or make weird noises? Or are cumbersome to use?

//Has used the Dunlop ones on most of my guitars for years, was never aware they were sucky

Some of them loosen over time, which negates their "advantage."

I started using Schallers long ago, around the time the other guitarist in my band launched his nice LP, resulting in an expensive and not-very-convincing repair.

Thought I had that problem licked, until I noticed that the nuts that held the locks to the strap would loosen over time. I quickly got in the habit of checking them every night, and giving them a twist with a pair of pliers.

One night, the lock slipped through the strap, and I nearly dropped the guitar. Switched to the oversized buttons, and I've never looked back.

superchicken_VI · October 13th, 2008, 01:56 PM

I use Schallers with a drop of glue on the screw when I run it in. I use the screw that comes with the straplocks, and since I've added that drop of simple craft glue, I've not had one back out. I won't play an electric guitar that I value without them.

Injun Joe · October 13th, 2008, 03:14 PM

I've been using these homemade stainless jobs... They hold on well. I'd like to say it was my design, but they are a copy of these nylon ones that cost under $3: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardware...p_Buttons.html

Chris S. · October 13th, 2008, 03:34 PM

[quote=Skrik;1458966]http://www.rockinger.com/index.php?c...&product=0819S

Yup, those are the ones. Except I get mine from a plumbing supply house and they're like a dollar-eleventeen a dozen or something.

I've got 'em on all the guits I gig with. -- CS

Charles Obscure · October 13th, 2008, 04:03 PM

I've been using Schallers for so long, they're on most of my guitars, and it would be hard to change to anything else (I don't know where all those strap buttons went). The other strap locks I use are branded "Marvel", and I attach those to guitars with the strap pin behind the neck/body joint. They don't stick out as far as the Schallers and Dunlops which tend to poke me in the gut back there. There are a few that still have the original strap pins, but I'll leave 'em for now.
I'm not sure why I started using strap locks. It must have been the cool thing to do at some point, and just went on from there. I don't jump around much when playing, unless I'm getting shocked, and I haven't dropped a guitar - yet.

hockey_head · October 13th, 2008, 04:10 PM

they cost 99 cents and are flat and consist of two interlocked pieces that rotate and form an opening and closing eccentric. wish i knew what they were called or who made them but they are simple and positively lock. I just leave the straps on my axes and basses tho because these would be a little tedious getting on and off all the time.

hockey_head · October 13th, 2008, 04:15 PM

I have tried schaller and the other push-button straplocks and can confirm that both types eventually wear out and next thing you know you're lighting a smoke or tinkering with something and BANG.............you're cursing, retuning and wondering who makes straplocks that don't suck.

slickschoppers · October 13th, 2008, 04:38 PM

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...rap?sku=360651

I use a few of them as and there are a few that I have just used the ends and put them on better straps.

I have a fender tweed style strap and replaced the leather ends with the plastic ends off of these and it works great. I have had mine for around 6 months no problems. I know people that have used them for YEARS no problems.

the whole strap is cheap enough to just buy it for the ends.

sugarinthegourd · October 14th, 2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.B.Negative

The rubber gaskets from Grolsch "flip top" beer bottles have never let me down, and you get a free beer with each straplock!

+1

I was just about to recommend the same thing.

bendecaster · October 15th, 2008, 05:46 AM

I've got some Dunlop recessed, 4 ball straplocks on a Strat that are great!

tele-rain · October 15th, 2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarinthegourd

+1

I was just about to recommend the same thing.

I tried the Grolsch thing and it didn't work for me. After a few days, they popped right off while playing. And I don't even play all crazy, I mean I'm still very much in the learning stages. But I do move the guitar a bit as I'm playing, and I guess that made the strap push the thing off. Ahh well.

I think my next attempt will be those bigger buttons mentioned above.

Tarnisher · October 15th, 2008, 02:32 PM

+1 on these:

They're cheap, they require no tools to install, come off in a jiffy if you need them to, and most importantly, THEY WORK. I've used 'em for years and I've never had a guitar fall, even when I wear my guitar Bruce style before hitting the stage.

Del Pickup · October 15th, 2008, 05:10 PM

It's the nuts that keep the straplock on your strap that I seem to have a problem with.

I bought a set of Dunlop (I think) strap locks for my old tele many years and never had a problem with them. When I got my Custom Shop Clapton strat a few years ago I bought a set for that and these nuts just will not stay tight on the strap. They keep working loose. I've never actually lost one or had the strap come off because of it but it's a real pain cos I had to remind myself to keep checking them very regularly (like every time I picked up the guitar!).

I thought it might have been the thick leather of that strap but the same thing happened when I transferred them to another plain strap.

I ended up taking them off and going back to the ordinary buttons - I've never had a problem with them anyway (touch wood!).

I know I could have used some Loctite or similar glue on the thread to keep the nut in place but then that makes it difficult to change the strap if you ever wanted to.

Seems like they're more bother than they're worth. I might try the bog rubber washer idea though. That seems like it should be easy and problem-free.

red57strat · October 15th, 2008, 11:03 PM

I've used Schallers for 20 years and they've never let me down. They're not exactly maintenance free, though.
Nothing is.

Installed and maintained correctly, they don't suck.

gtech · October 15th, 2008, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red57strat

I've used Schallers for 20 years and they've never let me down. They're not exactly maintenance free, though.
Nothing is.

Installed and maintained correctly, they don't suck.

+1

The same for me.

toadman · October 16th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Del Pickup

It's the nuts that keep the straplock on your strap that I seem to have a problem with.

I bought a set of Dunlop (I think) strap locks for my old tele many years and never had a problem with them. When I got my Custom Shop Clapton strat a few years ago I bought a set for that and these nuts just will not stay tight on the strap. They keep working loose. I've never actually lost one or had the strap come off because of it but it's a real pain cos I had to remind myself to keep checking them very regularly (like every time I picked up the guitar!).

I thought it might have been the thick leather of that strap but the same thing happened when I transferred them to another plain strap.

I ended up taking them off and going back to the ordinary buttons - I've never had a problem with them anyway (touch wood!).

I know I could have used some Loctite or similar glue on the thread to keep the nut in place but then that makes it difficult to change the strap if you ever wanted to.

Seems like they're more bother than they're worth. I might try the bog rubber washer idea though. That seems like it should be easy and problem-free.

try wrapping the threads with white teflon tape. that worked for me with the schallers, dunlops and the cheap GFS things i wasted my money on! they all work well now! BUT.....the Grolsch things or the oversized strap buttons seem like the truly efficiant and cost effective method to me!

tdowns · October 16th, 2008, 01:10 AM

I used Schaller's for many years, but settled on Dunlops about 8 years ago. I could not be more satisfied. I use them on all my guitars.

jivetrain · October 16th, 2008, 01:37 AM

i agree that the dunlop locks work fine. my american tele came with the schallers and they've worked well enough to keep, although the various parts do come loose from time to time and need to be checked every time you use them. the dunlops are a little more awkward looking but they have no moving parts that can come unscrewed and i've had no issues with them in one year of use. i don't see the supposed problem here...

bowlfreshener · October 16th, 2008, 01:57 AM

DiMarzio Cliplock Straps. Strictly utility, not flashy or fancy, which is why some people don't like them, but it does what it should really good and keeps your guitar in place. I have them on most of my guitars, and the ones that don't have them, have Schallers. Comes with 2 different sets of screws to accomodate any strap button size hole, so no drilling necessary, just make sure you have a decent phillips head to torque down the extra long screws...

TheBear · November 7th, 2008, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.B.Negative

The rubber gaskets from Grolsch "flip top" beer bottles have never let me down, and you get a free beer with each straplock! Also available without the beer from http://www.homebrewery.com for $7.50 a hundred.

I got a bottle of Fischer which has the same style top. The gasket is glued on and I cannot get it off. Are the Grolsch bottles like this? Is there any trick to removing them?

Thanks

cook · November 8th, 2008, 11:44 PM

The Grolsch ones aren't glued on. They pull right off.

psychotelepathic · November 10th, 2008, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey_head

I have tried schaller and the other push-button straplocks and can confirm that both types eventually wear out and next thing you know you're lighting a smoke or tinkering with something and BANG.............you're cursing, retuning and wondering who makes straplocks that don't suck.

HAHA, this is almost exactly what happened before I posted this thread. Luckily it hit the carpet...Could have been *much* worse.

Tony474 · November 10th, 2008, 07:18 AM

I've never had a problem with the Dunlops I use on some guitars, the oversize strap buttons on a couple of others or the clever "keyhole" design of strap fitting (sorry, can't recall the brand) on one particular instrument. I've never liked the look of the Schaller type from an engineering point of view, though I know that lots of people swear by them.

By and large each of my many guitars has its own strap that stays on all the time anyway. To avoid accidents I've got into the habits of making sure the strap's not twisted or otherwise displaced when putting the guitar on and of periodically checking all screws and other fasteners for tightness.

zoppotrump · November 10th, 2008, 07:35 AM

+1 on the schaller strap locks.
i use them for over a decade now and i rely on them. i just use longer screws.
due to the fact, that i use an amp when i play, i really can´t tell, if they make any noise or squeak...

zoppotrump
:O)

October 13th, 2008, 01:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
psychotelepathic Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Charlotte Posts: 678	Is there such a thing as straplocks that don't suck? I think I've tried all types. The Schaellers, the Dunlops, the pick-shaped plastic washers, etc. Are there any that don't suck? Maybe I"m missing something. The Schaellers work, but I hate the creaking and the way they work themselves out of the hole. Anyone happy with others?

October 13th, 2008, 01:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
gitlvr Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Northern Va. Posts: 369	I've used schallers for 20+ years. Never had a single problem. Yes, they creak sometimes. But I'll gladly put up with a little creaking noise that nobody but me hears anyway in exchange for the 100% reliability they've delivered. They're the only strap locks that go on my guitars. __________________ Mike The only thing nescessary for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing.

October 13th, 2008, 01:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
Stuco Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: GA Posts: 4,230	I personally don't like strap locks. The oversized strap buttons are a good option. There are also those black plastic type that are kind of rectangular shaped that seem like they would work well. I don't know who makes them though. __________________ -"You do not merely want to be considered just the best of the best. You want to be considered the only ones who do what you do" J. Garcia

October 13th, 2008, 02:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
rodeo_joel Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta Age: 22 Posts: 678	the dunlops work great for me, i like how they don't stick out on the strap like the head on the schaellers do. the flat top makes them look a little more sleek. I think they're fairly sturdy, but then on a tele (a guitar that's relatively light) you're not putting them under a great deal of weight anyways. __________________

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Skrik Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Norway Age: 39 Posts: 674	http://www.rockinger.com/index.php?c...&product=0819S or http://www.rockinger.com/index.php?c...F0815S%2F0815G __________________ "Gary Moore should take his guitar and go home" -- John Lee Hooker

October 13th, 2008, 01:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chris Leger Banned Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Hampshire Age: 44 Posts: 923 2 Photos	I switched to these years ago, after screwing with Schallers for far too long: http://www.allparts.com/store/hardwa...10,Product.asp They DO NOT come off. No moving parts, etc.

October 13th, 2008, 03:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
andrewb Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: sydney Posts: 329	iv used schallers for years they are fine... i use longer screws... throw some graphite on them when i change strings.... never had a problem

October 13th, 2008, 05:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
A.B.Negative Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 428	The rubber gaskets from Grolsch "flip top" beer bottles have never let me down, and you get a free beer with each straplock! Also available without the beer from http://www.homebrewery.com for $7.50 a hundred. __________________ "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."

October 13th, 2008, 07:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
A.B.Negative Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 428	Here's some Grolsch pics __________________ "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." Last edited by A.B.Negative; August 26th, 2009 at 04:21 PM.

October 13th, 2008, 08:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
Dave_Strat TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 64	These work great and are cheap enough to buy a set for every guitar you own. I have one set that is twenty years old and still going. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardware...ap_System.html

October 13th, 2008, 11:02 AM	#13 (permalink)
viking Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 43 Posts: 652	Ive never used straplocks , and dont think I will. Its a habit thing , I guess , I always have one hand on the guitar. The ones from Rockinger , with the big " nut " that screws into the end pin , is the neatest design , IMO....

October 13th, 2008, 11:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
charlie chitlin Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bucktown, Pa Age: 48 Posts: 3,503	I bought a set of the Stew-Mac cheapies just out of curiosity. They work, but are a little fugly. If I'm going with fuglly (and I am), I'll use a 10 cent fender washer. Unscrew the button, put on the washer, put on the strap, then screw it back on the geetar. It's cheap, simple perfection. But the strap has to stay on. In 30 years, I've never seen a case where the strap had to come off for the guitar to fit, nor have I seen a strap damage a finish. __________________ Dig yo'self http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...6-bf3537901a07

October 13th, 2008, 01:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
TyPierce Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 109	Not exactly classic Fender, but I'm a big big fan of the Gretsch strap buttons that screw on over your strap. Maybe not as Quickdraw McGraw as some of the other options out there, but they work really well.

October 13th, 2008, 01:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
manfesto Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Age: 23 Posts: 235	I guess I'm missing something - why exactly do most straplocks suck? Do most not keep the strap on the guitar? Or make weird noises? Or are cumbersome to use? //Has used the Dunlop ones on most of my guitars for years, was never aware they were sucky

October 13th, 2008, 01:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
superchicken_VI Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Monroe, NC Age: 37 Posts: 2,270	I use Schallers with a drop of glue on the screw when I run it in. I use the screw that comes with the straplocks, and since I've added that drop of simple craft glue, I've not had one back out. I won't play an electric guitar that I value without them.

October 13th, 2008, 03:34 PM	#20 (permalink)
Chris S. Moderator Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Near TELE-Town (Wash. DC) Posts: 3,590 7 Photos	[quote=Skrik;1458966]http://www.rockinger.com/index.php?c...&product=0819S Yup, those are the ones. Except I get mine from a plumbing supply house and they're like a dollar-eleventeen a dozen or something. I've got 'em on all the guits I gig with. -- CS __________________ "I go online sometimes, but everyone's spelling is really bad. It's depressing." – Tara, from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" "It was born at the junction of form and function." – Bill Kirchen, from "Hammer of the Honky-Tonk Gods"

October 13th, 2008, 04:03 PM	#21 (permalink)
Charles Obscure TDPRI Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sunny southern Wisconsin Age: 48 Posts: 36	I've been using Schallers for so long, they're on most of my guitars, and it would be hard to change to anything else (I don't know where all those strap buttons went). The other strap locks I use are branded "Marvel", and I attach those to guitars with the strap pin behind the neck/body joint. They don't stick out as far as the Schallers and Dunlops which tend to poke me in the gut back there. There are a few that still have the original strap pins, but I'll leave 'em for now. I'm not sure why I started using strap locks. It must have been the cool thing to do at some point, and just went on from there. I don't jump around much when playing, unless I'm getting shocked, and I haven't dropped a guitar - yet. __________________ _^_^_^_^_Rhythm Bound_^_^_^_^_

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hockey_head Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: shortsville, ny Age: 52 Posts: 379	they cost 99 cents and are flat and consist of two interlocked pieces that rotate and form an opening and closing eccentric. wish i knew what they were called or who made them but they are simple and positively lock. I just leave the straps on my axes and basses tho because these would be a little tedious getting on and off all the time.

October 13th, 2008, 04:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
hockey_head Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: shortsville, ny Age: 52 Posts: 379	I have tried schaller and the other push-button straplocks and can confirm that both types eventually wear out and next thing you know you're lighting a smoke or tinkering with something and BANG.............you're cursing, retuning and wondering who makes straplocks that don't suck.

October 13th, 2008, 04:38 PM	#24 (permalink)
slickschoppers Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Iowa Age: 35 Posts: 303	I know that these work GREAT for me. http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...rap?sku=360651 I use a few of them as and there are a few that I have just used the ends and put them on better straps. I have a fender tweed style strap and replaced the leather ends with the plastic ends off of these and it works great. I have had mine for around 6 months no problems. I know people that have used them for YEARS no problems. the whole strap is cheap enough to just buy it for the ends.

October 15th, 2008, 05:46 AM	#26 (permalink)
bendecaster Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: maine Posts: 1,177	I've got some Dunlop recessed, 4 ball straplocks on a Strat that are great! __________________ The Demented 7th

October 15th, 2008, 02:32 PM	#28 (permalink)
Tarnisher Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brooklyn Age: 30 Posts: 405	+1 on these: They're cheap, they require no tools to install, come off in a jiffy if you need them to, and most importantly, THEY WORK. I've used 'em for years and I've never had a guitar fall, even when I wear my guitar Bruce style before hitting the stage. __________________ http://profile.myspace.com/thetarnishers

October 15th, 2008, 05:10 PM	#29 (permalink)
Del Pickup Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,559 6 Photos	It's the nuts that keep the straplock on your strap that I seem to have a problem with. I bought a set of Dunlop (I think) strap locks for my old tele many years and never had a problem with them. When I got my Custom Shop Clapton strat a few years ago I bought a set for that and these nuts just will not stay tight on the strap. They keep working loose. I've never actually lost one or had the strap come off because of it but it's a real pain cos I had to remind myself to keep checking them very regularly (like every time I picked up the guitar!). I thought it might have been the thick leather of that strap but the same thing happened when I transferred them to another plain strap. I ended up taking them off and going back to the ordinary buttons - I've never had a problem with them anyway (touch wood!). I know I could have used some Loctite or similar glue on the thread to keep the nut in place but then that makes it difficult to change the strap if you ever wanted to. Seems like they're more bother than they're worth. I might try the bog rubber washer idea though. That seems like it should be easy and problem-free. __________________ Someone told me that my tone is in my underpants. I'm not sure if that's good or bad......

October 15th, 2008, 11:03 PM	#30 (permalink)
red57strat Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,472	I've used Schallers for 20 years and they've never let me down. They're not exactly maintenance free, though. Nothing is. Installed and maintained correctly, they don't suck. __________________ Don

October 16th, 2008, 01:10 AM	#33 (permalink)
tdowns Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wylie, TX US Posts: 3,108	I used Schaller's for many years, but settled on Dunlops about 8 years ago. I could not be more satisfied. I use them on all my guitars. __________________ Best regards, Terry Downs http://terrydownsmusic.com Equine quadrupeds may be coaxed to the reference of specific gravity but may not be compelled to imbibe thereof.

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October 16th, 2008, 01:37 AM	#34 (permalink)
jivetrain Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: iowa Posts: 596 2 Photos	i agree that the dunlop locks work fine. my american tele came with the schallers and they've worked well enough to keep, although the various parts do come loose from time to time and need to be checked every time you use them. the dunlops are a little more awkward looking but they have no moving parts that can come unscrewed and i've had no issues with them in one year of use. i don't see the supposed problem here...

October 16th, 2008, 01:57 AM	#35 (permalink)
bowlfreshener Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 34 Posts: 2,065 6 Photos	DiMarzio Cliplock Straps. Strictly utility, not flashy or fancy, which is why some people don't like them, but it does what it should really good and keeps your guitar in place. I have them on most of my guitars, and the ones that don't have them, have Schallers. Comes with 2 different sets of screws to accomodate any strap button size hole, so no drilling necessary, just make sure you have a decent phillips head to torque down the extra long screws... __________________ RAMA LAMA FA FA FA

November 8th, 2008, 11:44 PM	#37 (permalink)
cook Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 194 2 Photos	The Grolsch ones aren't glued on. They pull right off.

November 10th, 2008, 07:18 AM	#39 (permalink)
Tony474 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Bushey, near London, England Age: 62 Posts: 2,441	I've never had a problem with the Dunlops I use on some guitars, the oversize strap buttons on a couple of others or the clever "keyhole" design of strap fitting (sorry, can't recall the brand) on one particular instrument. I've never liked the look of the Schaller type from an engineering point of view, though I know that lots of people swear by them. By and large each of my many guitars has its own strap that stays on all the time anyway. To avoid accidents I've got into the habits of making sure the strap's not twisted or otherwise displaced when putting the guitar on and of periodically checking all screws and other fasteners for tightness. __________________ *Proud to be The Man From Uncool.* I cried because I had no shoes - until I met a man who had no feet...

November 10th, 2008, 07:35 AM	#40 (permalink)
zoppotrump Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: nuernberg, germany Posts: 588 34 Photos	+1 on the schaller strap locks. i use them for over a decade now and i rely on them. i just use longer screws. due to the fact, that i use an amp when i play, i really can´t tell, if they make any noise or squeak... zoppotrump :O) __________________ zoppotrump :O) _______________________ may the twang be with you !