Baritone Tele.... E To E tuning? Warmoth conversion etc.

BADFISH · January 10th, 2004, 04:28 PM

Hello, I'm really thinking of a Tele (Baritone).. I have all the Hardware and Body, I'm ready to go.
My original Idea was a Jerry Jones 6 string bass , it is E to E with a 30" scale.... The strings JJ uses are 84-24. It's ment to be one octave below Standard.

The Warmoth Baritone neck is 28 5/8" ... Most use this neck with an A for the low string.. I Think? I would like to tune it like the Jerry Jones...

I imagine I would need heavier strings then the JJ to get the string tension correct on the warmoth? Is there certain set's on the market that would be good?

Any Experience and help would be great..... I would hate to learn the "hard way". Thanks again

BADFISH · January 14th, 2004, 05:19 PM

I just Emailed Warmoth .... I'll see what they say.

e-merlin · January 14th, 2004, 11:28 PM

From what I understand, the Bari is tuned B to B. I got that from Larry at WD.

hippietim · January 14th, 2004, 11:38 PM

I converted my MIM 50's Classic into a Baritone with a conversion neck from Warmoth. I tune it A to A.

http://www.hackolutions.com/baritele.jpg

If you want to do an E to E thing, I suggest you call Tommy at USA Custom Guitars. They make a Baritone VI body and matching 30" scale neck to do E to E.

http://www.usacustomguitars.com

TheGoodTexan · January 15th, 2004, 09:49 AM

A guitar tuned E to E, one octave below standard...wouldn't that just be a standard 6 string bass? I think that once you get that low, you lose the appeal and character of a true baritone (B to B, or A to A).

A real baritone gets as low as you can get, and still have chords blend well and not get muddy. Low E to E, on any scale neck, gets too muddy to be effective as a baritone.

I've got the Jerry Jones Neptune Short-horn Baritone, and I usually tune it B to B. This is the best real baritone ever made in my opinion.

BADFISH · January 16th, 2004, 08:15 PM

A standard Bass is Two octaves below The guitar tuning........ Warmoth said " E to E would not be a good idea with this scale length". With this said Jerry Jones still makes those 6 string (TIC-Tac) bass guitars That are ment to be strung E to E one octave below the standard guitar. I may try one some day? Thanks again

Rick Towne · January 16th, 2004, 08:34 PM

Mine is tuned E to E and is just right. The string guage allows for chording as well as bass lines and single note solos.

hippietim · January 17th, 2004, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGoodTexan

A guitar tuned E to E, one octave below standard...wouldn't that just be a standard 6 string bass?

No, a standard 6-string bass is typically tuned B to C (or B to B) which is a good bit lower than E to E.

January 10th, 2004, 04:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
BADFISH Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Daytona beach Fl. and Austin Tx. Posts: 348	Baritone Tele.... E To E tuning? Warmoth conversion etc. Hello, I'm really thinking of a Tele (Baritone).. I have all the Hardware and Body, I'm ready to go. My original Idea was a Jerry Jones 6 string bass , it is E to E with a 30" scale.... The strings JJ uses are 84-24. It's ment to be one octave below Standard. The Warmoth Baritone neck is 28 5/8" ... Most use this neck with an A for the low string.. I Think? I would like to tune it like the Jerry Jones... I imagine I would need heavier strings then the JJ to get the string tension correct on the warmoth? Is there certain set's on the market that would be good? Any Experience and help would be great..... I would hate to learn the "hard way". Thanks again

January 14th, 2004, 05:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
BADFISH Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Daytona beach Fl. and Austin Tx. Posts: 348	No Experience with this ? I just Emailed Warmoth .... I'll see what they say.

January 16th, 2004, 08:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rick Towne Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 819	Jerry Jones Baritone Mine is tuned E to E and is just right. The string guage allows for chording as well as bass lines and single note solos.

January 14th, 2004, 11:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
hippietim Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Raleigh Posts: 2,101	I converted my MIM 50's Classic into a Baritone with a conversion neck from Warmoth. I tune it A to A. http://www.hackolutions.com/baritele.jpg If you want to do an E to E thing, I suggest you call Tommy at USA Custom Guitars. They make a Baritone VI body and matching 30" scale neck to do E to E. http://www.usacustomguitars.com

January 16th, 2004, 08:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
BADFISH Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Daytona beach Fl. and Austin Tx. Posts: 348	A standard Bass is Two octaves below The guitar tuning........ Warmoth said " E to E would not be a good idea with this scale length". With this said Jerry Jones still makes those 6 string (TIC-Tac) bass guitars That are ment to be strung E to E one octave below the standard guitar. I may try one some day? Thanks again