TBX vs No Load

TheBear · July 18th, 2008, 12:45 AM

I'm planning to build a Baritone tele w/ low output Lipstick pickups. From what I've gathered, Baritone's need clean and bright to avoid muddiness. Does a TBX do everything that a No Load does and more? If not, would I benefit more from cutting the bass then I would from adding brightness?

Do any of you guys have a preference between the two?

Thanks

idoru · July 18th, 2008, 02:00 AM

I've used both the modded TBX design from here, and a stock No-load . The no-load effect is quite subtle, but the bass cut on the TBX is very noticeable - I much prefer the TBX circuit. The question is whether you need a treble cut at all - if not, just rig a normal pot as bass cut and away you go :)

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TheBear · July 18th, 2008, 03:26 AM

Ah, that makes much more sense! I could even do a No Load w/ bass cut and have the best of both worlds. Does the cap used control whether bass or treble is cut? What cap would you recommend for this either way?
I have some more homework to do on wiring!

Rob DiStefano · July 18th, 2008, 06:58 AM

+1 on the no-load ... the TBX never rocked my world.

cdhopkin · July 18th, 2008, 08:21 AM

I've used no-loads, tbx's and standard pots as tone controls and never really noticed that much of a difference really - although that might be because i use standard humbuckers, lace sensors and single coil sized buckers.

TheBear · July 18th, 2008, 11:32 PM

How do I wire for bass cut rather than treble? For this project, should I use a .022 cap for the clean and bright or would you recommend something else?

ChristoMephisto · July 18th, 2008, 11:42 PM

Stumbled across a site that shows you how to make your own no load tone pot, pretty simple to do, and only took a few minutes.
I grabbed a 250k push/pull pot to experiment with. Nice

http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/pots.htm

July 18th, 2008, 12:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
TheBear Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ks Posts: 401	TBX vs No Load I'm planning to build a Baritone tele w/ low output Lipstick pickups. From what I've gathered, Baritone's need clean and bright to avoid muddiness. Does a TBX do everything that a No Load does and more? If not, would I benefit more from cutting the bass then I would from adding brightness? Do any of you guys have a preference between the two? Thanks

July 18th, 2008, 02:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
idoru TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 32 Posts: 58	I've used both the modded TBX design from here, and a stock No-load . The no-load effect is quite subtle, but the bass cut on the TBX is very noticeable - I much prefer the TBX circuit. The question is whether you need a treble cut at all - if not, just rig a normal pot as bass cut and away you go :) c-

July 18th, 2008, 03:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
TheBear Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ks Posts: 401	Ah, that makes much more sense! I could even do a No Load w/ bass cut and have the best of both worlds. Does the cap used control whether bass or treble is cut? What cap would you recommend for this either way? I have some more homework to do on wiring!

July 18th, 2008, 06:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rob DiStefano Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Park Ridge, NJ Age: 62 Posts: 4,792	+1 on the no-load ... the TBX never rocked my world.

July 18th, 2008, 08:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
cdhopkin Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pontypridd, South Wales Age: 30 Posts: 200	I've used no-loads, tbx's and standard pots as tone controls and never really noticed that much of a difference really - although that might be because i use standard humbuckers, lace sensors and single coil sized buckers.

July 18th, 2008, 11:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
TheBear Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ks Posts: 401	How do I wire for bass cut rather than treble? For this project, should I use a .022 cap for the clean and bright or would you recommend something else?

July 18th, 2008, 11:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChristoMephisto TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 16	Stumbled across a site that shows you how to make your own no load tone pot, pretty simple to do, and only took a few minutes. I grabbed a 250k push/pull pot to experiment with. Nice http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/pots.htm