Intonation

ejb222 · July 17th, 2008, 01:44 PM

So I have an 05 American deluxe with locking tuners and deluxe saddles. And I can't seem to get my intonation just right. Mostly the issue is with the G string. Paying quite sharp in the first few frets even though the intonation at the 12th is right on. Gets quite frustrating. Anyone help me out on this one?
Thanks

esteban · July 17th, 2008, 02:04 PM

Your nut slot is probably too high.

robt57 · July 17th, 2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ejb222

So I have an 05 American deluxe with locking tuners and deluxe saddles. And I can't seem to get my intonation just right. Mostly the issue is with the G string. Paying quite sharp in the first few frets even though the intonation at the 12th is right on. Gets quite frustrating. Anyone help me out on this one?
Thanks

Light [very ?] gauge 'G' by chance ?

Nut not cut low enough, too high string slot comes to my mind right off...

robt57 · July 17th, 2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by esteban

Your nut slot is probably too high.

Greta minds think a like?

esteban · July 17th, 2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by robt57

Greta minds think a like?

All I know is that I think this is the first time I answered a Tele-Tech question! Sadly, it took 1,000 posts...

boris bubbanov · July 17th, 2008, 03:13 PM

There's deep discussion of this at the Earvana web site.

There's also a thread here about an article written by Mr. Jerry Donahue who talks about making adjustments and compromises to reduce outward manifestations of bad intonation.

Intonation is just one factor in my decision to switch mostly to 11-49s. I agree the best possible nut and tuner choices can reduce the problem, but I'm intrigued that such a big majority of these problems are that cowboy "G".

A couple of extry winds round the post on the G ( and a little on the D, too ) will not hurt, either.

robt57 · July 17th, 2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by boris bubbanov

A couple of extry winds round the post on the G ( and a little on the D, too ) will not hurt, either.

What is the logic to that? Just curious...

guitarzan13 · July 17th, 2008, 03:40 PM

Are the strings new??? Old string won't intonate properly.....

Stan Martin · July 17th, 2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by robt57

What is the logic to that? Just curious...

break angle over the nut. sometimes it does help, but generally if you're going sharp within the first three frets, your nut is too high/slots not cut deep enough.

ejb222 · July 17th, 2008, 05:51 PM

If it is the nut, is it recommended to fix the problem yourself? Is it possible to get close to perfect intonation at every fret?

robt57 · July 17th, 2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Martin

break angle over the nut. sometimes it does help, but generally if you're going sharp within the first three frets, your nut is too high/slots not cut deep enough.

OK, make sense.. Tanks

mellecaster · July 17th, 2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ejb222

If it is the nut, is it recommended to fix the problem yourself? Is it possible to get close to perfect intonation at every fret?

Do you have a set of Nut files ?....probably not...so I would take it somewhere for that...2nd question....No

July 17th, 2008, 01:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
ejb222 TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Massachusetts Age: 28 Posts: 54 4 Photos	Intonation So I have an 05 American deluxe with locking tuners and deluxe saddles. And I can't seem to get my intonation just right. Mostly the issue is with the G string. Paying quite sharp in the first few frets even though the intonation at the 12th is right on. Gets quite frustrating. Anyone help me out on this one? Thanks

July 17th, 2008, 02:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
esteban Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 20 Posts: 1,159 3 Photos	Your nut slot is probably too high. __________________ When I die, they'll say, he couldn't play sh*t, but he sure made it sound good. - Hound Dog Taylor

July 17th, 2008, 03:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
boris bubbanov Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Orleans, LA + in the past Posts: 8,579	There's deep discussion of this at the Earvana web site. There's also a thread here about an article written by Mr. Jerry Donahue who talks about making adjustments and compromises to reduce outward manifestations of bad intonation. Intonation is just one factor in my decision to switch mostly to 11-49s. I agree the best possible nut and tuner choices can reduce the problem, but I'm intrigued that such a big majority of these problems are that cowboy "G". A couple of extry winds round the post on the G ( and a little on the D, too ) will not hurt, either. __________________ Bubban0v

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guitarzan13 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: LaGrange, GA Age: 43 Posts: 1,269 8 Photos	Are the strings new??? Old string won't intonate properly..... __________________ Practice make permanent!!!!....Perfect practice makes perfect!!! Chris B. Current Band www.productoffaith.net Last band as a bass player www.neonjones.com

July 17th, 2008, 05:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
ejb222 TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Massachusetts Age: 28 Posts: 54 4 Photos	If it is the nut, is it recommended to fix the problem yourself? Is it possible to get close to perfect intonation at every fret?