Removing Sanding Sealer

robrohdeszudy · July 14th, 2008, 03:51 PM

Hey folks. I have an "unfinished" Allparts neck that won't absorb any oil finish. I assume they used some sort of sanding sealer.

Anybody know what it is or how to remove it?

Thanks,
--Rob

Buckocaster51 · July 14th, 2008, 03:56 PM

Madison WI eh?

Is that research reactor still there?

Maybe some time in a neutron stream...

All seriousness aside, to get it all off, I think you are going to have to resort to some physical process...a combination of sanding and scraping.

You might want to consider "Plan B."

Old Cane · July 14th, 2008, 04:09 PM

I'd use 220 and/or 320. At least, that's what i do when I spray the stuff on and level it. It seems to sand off pretty easily.

robrohdeszudy · July 14th, 2008, 04:36 PM

Hey Bucko, hadn't realized we were neighbors! Yup, the reactor is still there. Stranger yet, my mom was going to high school at the Univ of Chicago lab school during the time when THEIR research reactor was hidden under the football stadium. I always wondered if there were a lot of Chicago footballers with cancer later on.

Anyhow, back on topic, I was afraid y'all would say that. I was really hoping to scrub it out with acetone or something. Getting between the frets is gonna SUUUUUUUUCK.

Thanks,
--Rob

eryque · July 14th, 2008, 07:41 PM

I forget exactly what all parts uses, but it's not sanding sealer. I think it's made out of rhinoceros hide oil or something that's biologically engineered to be indestructible. I think you have to use kryptonite tipped drill bits on it ;-)

robrohdeszudy · July 14th, 2008, 09:54 PM

Well, eryque, I think you might be confirming my suspicion that it's actually wood hardener, which is a highly thinned epoxy. This means acetone MIGHT get it off. Maybe I'll try a little experiment on the heel, where it will be invisible in case I'm dreadfully wrong. --Rob

robrohdeszudy · July 15th, 2008, 11:26 AM

Nope. Acetone and a toothbrush takes off a little surface sheen, but this stuff goes DEEP. Even 150 grit paper didn't make a very big difference. Maybe I'll try a little dot of p[aint stripper next. This stuff seems to be only on the fingerboard, so I would not be at all surprised if it is indeed wood hardener. I am beginning to fear that by the time I get deep enough to stain this stuff I'll need to just plane it off and glue on a slab of rosewood anyhow!
--Rob

mellecaster · July 15th, 2008, 05:35 PM

What type of finish are you trying to apply ?...Be specific

jwells393 · July 15th, 2008, 05:47 PM

I say fagitoboudit. It's not worth the effort. Do a lacquer finish and sand or steel wool it if you don't like the glossy look and feel.

robrohdeszudy · July 15th, 2008, 09:01 PM

I was going for thinned linseed with a little stain in it. But it won't soak in. Mostly just looking for a little color, since the fingerboard looks wildly too white compared to the body. But I think I have this figured out. Careful work with a propane torch on low adds color relatively nicely. Pix later. --Rob

mellecaster · July 15th, 2008, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robrohdeszudy

I was going for thinned linseed with a little stain in it. But it won't soak in. Mostly just looking for a little color, since the fingerboard looks wildly too white compared to the body. But I think I have this figured out. Careful work with a propane torch on low adds color relatively nicely. Pix later. --Rob

This could prove to be interesting......

Musicman1 · July 16th, 2008, 04:47 PM

Torched neck?, pics please!

robrohdeszudy · July 18th, 2008, 04:35 PM

OK, check it out in my build thread: http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...ml#post1340998

jwells393 · July 18th, 2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Careful work with a propane torch on low adds color relatively nicely.

That should be interesting indeed. Seems like squirting a little Behlens tinted lacquer would be easier and maybe a more uniform color.

July 14th, 2008, 03:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
robrohdeszudy Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Age: 37 Posts: 255	Removing Sanding Sealer Hey folks. I have an "unfinished" Allparts neck that won't absorb any oil finish. I assume they used some sort of sanding sealer. Anybody know what it is or how to remove it? Thanks, --Rob

July 14th, 2008, 03:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 57 Posts: 5,603 1 Photos	Madison WI eh? Is that research reactor still there? Maybe some time in a neutron stream... All seriousness aside, to get it all off, I think you are going to have to resort to some physical process...a combination of sanding and scraping. You might want to consider "Plan B." __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

July 14th, 2008, 04:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Old Cane Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Age: 47 Posts: 928	I'd use 220 and/or 320. At least, that's what i do when I spray the stuff on and level it. It seems to sand off pretty easily. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/otiskeithwatkins

July 14th, 2008, 07:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
eryque Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: albany, ny [not chicago] Posts: 7,127 44 Photos	I forget exactly what all parts uses, but it's not sanding sealer. I think it's made out of rhinoceros hide oil or something that's biologically engineered to be indestructible. I think you have to use kryptonite tipped drill bits on it ;-) __________________ my blog: eryque.blogspot.com Updated 9.17.08! Subscribe_____________________

July 15th, 2008, 05:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
mellecaster Friend of Leo's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,776 17 Photos	What type of finish are you trying to apply ?...Be specific __________________ I have never owned an Ipod or Blackberry..and doubt that I ever will......

July 14th, 2008, 04:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
robrohdeszudy Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Age: 37 Posts: 255	Hey Bucko, hadn't realized we were neighbors! Yup, the reactor is still there. Stranger yet, my mom was going to high school at the Univ of Chicago lab school during the time when THEIR research reactor was hidden under the football stadium. I always wondered if there were a lot of Chicago footballers with cancer later on. Anyhow, back on topic, I was afraid y'all would say that. I was really hoping to scrub it out with acetone or something. Getting between the frets is gonna SUUUUUUUUCK. Thanks, --Rob

July 14th, 2008, 09:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
robrohdeszudy Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Age: 37 Posts: 255	Well, eryque, I think you might be confirming my suspicion that it's actually wood hardener, which is a highly thinned epoxy. This means acetone MIGHT get it off. Maybe I'll try a little experiment on the heel, where it will be invisible in case I'm dreadfully wrong. --Rob

July 15th, 2008, 11:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
robrohdeszudy Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Age: 37 Posts: 255	Nope. Acetone and a toothbrush takes off a little surface sheen, but this stuff goes DEEP. Even 150 grit paper didn't make a very big difference. Maybe I'll try a little dot of p[aint stripper next. This stuff seems to be only on the fingerboard, so I would not be at all surprised if it is indeed wood hardener. I am beginning to fear that by the time I get deep enough to stain this stuff I'll need to just plane it off and glue on a slab of rosewood anyhow! --Rob

July 15th, 2008, 05:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 64 Posts: 12,253 101 Photos	I say fagitoboudit. It's not worth the effort. Do a lacquer finish and sand or steel wool it if you don't like the glossy look and feel. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ Guys - learn to disable the flash on your digital cameras.

July 15th, 2008, 09:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
robrohdeszudy Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Age: 37 Posts: 255	I was going for thinned linseed with a little stain in it. But it won't soak in. Mostly just looking for a little color, since the fingerboard looks wildly too white compared to the body. But I think I have this figured out. Careful work with a propane torch on low adds color relatively nicely. Pix later. --Rob

July 16th, 2008, 04:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Musicman1 Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Arkansas Age: 33 Posts: 163	Torched neck?, pics please!

July 18th, 2008, 04:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
robrohdeszudy Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Age: 37 Posts: 255	OK, check it out in my build thread: http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...ml#post1340998