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Tele-Holic
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oklahoma
Age: 37
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Little Tricks to Good Soldering?
Tonight I am going to solder together my first guitar. I took a Affinity Strat I got at a pawn shop and moded the heck out of it. I did this since I did not want to mess up one of my Teles. Anyway, if anyone has any little tricks that make the going easier, it would be appreciated.
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Tele-Holic
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The best tip I can give you is to spend $20 on forum member Terry Downs' soldering DVD.
It is a complete video lesson and contains a wealth of information about tools, materials, technique, etc. |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Terry Downs Soldering DVD comes highly recommended around here.
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Doctor of Teleocity
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Here are a few tips..........
Use an adequate soldering iron. 40 watts is good. Keep the tip tinned and clean. Wipe it with a wet rag or paper towel. Use rosin core solder Don't touch the solder to the iron. Heat the part ...... touch the solder to the part and remove the iron when the solder melts. In soldering several ground wires to the back of a pot, first solder the wires together. Melt a puddle of solder onto the back of the pot............ dip the wires into the puddle and redraw the iron. Hold the wires still until the solder puddle solidifies.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Western MI
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If you have done it already, replace the conical tip that comes on most hobby grade soldering pencils. The conical shape is ideal foir soldering little bitty connections on a PCB. You'll find that a chisel tip will heat up the back of a pot much faster than a conical tip.
When I install new pots, I always clean the backs with a little naptha to remove any oil/lubricants/grease/dirt. Then I rough up the shiney surface with a some fine sandpaper (220) to so the solder has something to "bite" into.
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Tin both bits to be soldered - tin the wire, and the tab or back of the pot. And heat both evenly, perhaps rocking the tip gently or rolling slightly from side-side to get both bits warm so solder flows on them. Both bits have to be warm enough for solder to adhere to, it doesn't stick things like glue. Scrape a bit of cad-plating off a pot casing to bright metal to provide a 'tooth' for the solder.
Don't blow on solder to cool it, don't move the parts for a good ten or fifteen seconds as it could still be molten even if it looks solid. The resulting join should be smooth, shiny and look 'wet' on both parts. Not dry, dull or like it has pimples. Don't breathe the fumes - a fan blowing air over you gently is a good idea.
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: May 2007
Location: North NSW, Australia
Age: 36
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The key words are "Wetting Action". And no, this doesn't mean your local bar and it's second annual wet t-shirt competition, nor those dreams you used to have about needing to pee and then waking up halfway though...
It's about the actual "joint" that soldering creates. We are not welding: the metals you are joining do not melt at all. So getting a good bond between the metal and the solder is all to do with the surface tension of the molten solder and this is relative to the residual heat in the metal it's connecting to. Flux acts to decrease this surface tension and let the solder "flow" better but to really get that solder to flow between those pesky wires and into those little crevices (you did scuff your surfaces, didn't you?) and hold on tenaciously, a hot metal lets solder flow like molten butter and grip like velcro.
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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The most important part of this is the flux paste. It is what makes the solder flow quickly onto the joint. No messing around trying to get the solder where you want it while you overheat parts melting insulation or burning out components, and it allows you to preload all the solder you need on the iron. Different approaches will work for different people, but the above approach has made me a pretty consistent solderer which I was not prior to discovering how helpful flux paste could be. |
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I've also seen them much cheaper than RadioShack's price. |
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Doctor of Teleocity
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Here's a simple third hand.......... Needle nose with rubber band.
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Here's my one problem with solder technique: how do you get plastic coated wires hot enough to take solder without overheating the wire and shrinking the insulation?
I always strip my wire ends pretty carefully so as not to have too much unexposed wire and to keep things neat, but every single time the tubing shrinks from the heat before the wire is hot enough to take the solder.
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Doctor of Teleocity
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Hot iron ........ work fast.
An optional method............if your attaching wires to the switch or to the terminals on a pot, you could make a solder puddle on the tab and dip the wire into it. Haven't tried that but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oklahoma
Age: 37
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I was practicing soldering yesterday on some hand tools in my factory that needed to be fixed. I seemed to do alright ( they work now ). One thing you guys forgot to mention is how hot the solder is. Man, what a huge blister!
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