Tele Body edge band?

jc93230 · April 24th, 2008, 06:40 PM

I have a 2005 MIM Tele (Black) that I bought damaged from a dealer. It has a few places with some chips and areas where the finish is still adhering but cracked.

I removed one piece of the finish that was cracked and semi sharp, to make that spot smoother and founs what looks like some kind of darker material used as an edge banding around the body. Is this normal, or is Fender really cutting corners? I understand a multiple piece body, but this is kinda what is done to finish the edge of plywood! any thoughts?

jwells393 · April 24th, 2008, 08:20 PM

Your description is unclear. We like to see pictures. Look in the control cavity ..........you could tell if it was plywood. I seriously doubt Fender is using plywood. Plywood was once used on some of the cheaper Squiers and is used on the Squier Mini-Strats.

jc93230 · April 24th, 2008, 08:42 PM

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jc93230 · April 24th, 2008, 08:43 PM

The pics are from my camera phone, but it is a darker soft fibrous material banding the edge.

mellecaster · April 25th, 2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jwells393

Your description is unclear.

And so are your Photos....don't have a Camera ?....those are really tough to make out to me.

Jellecaster · April 25th, 2008, 11:26 AM

The photos are almost worthless (sorry) but are you talking about the part that I circled?

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I'm wondering if this could be the edge view of the top coat?

reddogbass · April 25th, 2008, 12:19 PM

I thought Martyb1 was the first to use OSB for guitars- maybe not!

jwells393 · April 25th, 2008, 12:45 PM

If you want to repair it I'd recommend that you break away all of the thick poly finish around the damaged areas. Then use auto body filler to build the damaged areas up the the surrounding surface. You're lucky it's black. You should be able to touch up the repair with Krylon and Deft. Here's a big poly chip I repaired with Bondo.

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jc93230 · April 25th, 2008, 01:00 PM

Thanks for looking at the pics, I know they are not the best, but the first one shows the line between the edge banding material and the body wood pretty well. the circled area is less clear, but i can actially get a razor blade edge into the joint. It appears that the body wood is solid,and perhapse they use this other material to make the edge finish and slight raduised edge?

I had thought about stripping the body and refinishing it, but it looks like the edge banding would make that a pain in the arse.

I have never heard anybody mention this as a factor before, so wanted to:

See if it was common.

Let others know about it.

Jellecaster · April 25th, 2008, 02:23 PM

Stripping these has been much discussed in the past and you are correct - it will be a total pain in the arse! You might be better off looking for a new body on ebay.

Nick JD · April 25th, 2008, 10:15 PM

I'm guessing the body has a veneer each side.

Buckocaster51 · April 26th, 2008, 01:49 AM

Ima gonna side with Nick on this a speculate that we are looking at a veneer.

But I have been wrong before.

Nick, I am not so sure about. Maybe once, about 6 months ago. Since then he has had a pretty good streak going.

Al Nico · April 26th, 2008, 02:32 AM

My bet is maple veneer on both side too. All the MIM Standard sunbursts have a maple veneer, maybe they used one of the grain mis-matched ones for this black body.

jc93230 · April 26th, 2008, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick JD

I'm guessing the body has a veneer each side.

I looked at it with my kids "Eyeclops", and I think you are right.

robt57 · April 26th, 2008, 10:58 AM

Veneer +1

I have heard [read] about refinishes of MIMs which have uncovered 6-7 piece bodies with a veneer on the front and back.

I suspect that is the case here quite possibly. The veneer will let the seams show through less obviously, or not at all??

It has got to take one serious hell-ova shoot to get a chuck of finish off these poly*.* finishes.

jc93230 · April 26th, 2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robt57

Veneer +1

I have heard [read] about refinishes of MIMs which have uncovered 6-7 piece bodies with a veneer on the front and back.

I suspect that is the case here quite possibly. The veneer will let the seams show through less obviously, or not at all??

It has got to take one serious hell-ova shoot to get a chuck of finish off these poly*.* finishes.

This guitar fell off the wall hanger at the dealer, and had a few chunks out of it. Tele headstock shapes do not stay in the hanges very well I guess. I bought it for $300 as a beater (but then put 4 way switching, SCNs and Fender/Schaller locking tuners on it, so not sure what it is now. a nice beater?)

April 24th, 2008, 06:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
jc93230 TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Age: 43 Posts: 13	Tele Body edge band? I have a 2005 MIM Tele (Black) that I bought damaged from a dealer. It has a few places with some chips and areas where the finish is still adhering but cracked. I removed one piece of the finish that was cracked and semi sharp, to make that spot smoother and founs what looks like some kind of darker material used as an edge banding around the body. Is this normal, or is Fender really cutting corners? I understand a multiple piece body, but this is kinda what is done to finish the edge of plywood! any thoughts?

April 24th, 2008, 08:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 64 Posts: 12,253 101 Photos	Your description is unclear. We like to see pictures. Look in the control cavity ..........you could tell if it was plywood. I seriously doubt Fender is using plywood. Plywood was once used on some of the cheaper Squiers and is used on the Squier Mini-Strats. __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ Guys - learn to disable the flash on your digital cameras.

April 25th, 2008, 11:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jellecaster Friend of Leo's Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Hampshire, USA Age: 40 Posts: 2,150	The photos are almost worthless (sorry) but are you talking about the part that I circled? untitled.JPG I'm wondering if this could be the edge view of the top coat? __________________ It was born at the junction of form and function...

April 25th, 2008, 12:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
jwells393 Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Albuquerque, USA Age: 64 Posts: 12,253 101 Photos	If you want to repair it I'd recommend that you break away all of the thick poly finish around the damaged areas. Then use auto body filler to build the damaged areas up the the surrounding surface. You're lucky it's black. You should be able to touch up the repair with Krylon and Deft. Here's a big poly chip I repaired with Bondo. ...... __________________ Jack's Disclaimer: When I say something.... always ask yourself ..... "What the hell does he know?" _ Guys - learn to disable the flash on your digital cameras. Last edited by jwells393; April 25th, 2008 at 01:30 PM.

April 25th, 2008, 02:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jellecaster Friend of Leo's Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Hampshire, USA Age: 40 Posts: 2,150	Stripping these has been much discussed in the past and you are correct - it will be a total pain in the arse! You might be better off looking for a new body on ebay. __________________ It was born at the junction of form and function...

April 24th, 2008, 08:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
jc93230 TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Age: 43 Posts: 13	[IMG]http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii119/ccemsa17/IMAGE_054.jpg[/IMG}

April 24th, 2008, 08:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
jc93230 TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Age: 43 Posts: 13	The pics are from my camera phone, but it is a darker soft fibrous material banding the edge.

April 25th, 2008, 12:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
reddogbass Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 62 Posts: 603 5 Photos	I thought Martyb1 was the first to use OSB for guitars- maybe not!

April 25th, 2008, 01:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
jc93230 TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Age: 43 Posts: 13	Thanks for looking at the pics, I know they are not the best, but the first one shows the line between the edge banding material and the body wood pretty well. the circled area is less clear, but i can actially get a razor blade edge into the joint. It appears that the body wood is solid,and perhapse they use this other material to make the edge finish and slight raduised edge? I had thought about stripping the body and refinishing it, but it looks like the edge banding would make that a pain in the arse. I have never heard anybody mention this as a factor before, so wanted to: See if it was common. Let others know about it.

April 25th, 2008, 10:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nick JD Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2007 Location: North NSW, Australia Age: 36 Posts: 2,597	I'm guessing the body has a veneer each side. __________________

April 26th, 2008, 01:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
Buckocaster51 Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa USA Age: 57 Posts: 5,603 1 Photos	Ima gonna side with Nick on this a speculate that we are looking at a veneer. But I have been wrong before. Nick, I am not so sure about. Maybe once, about 6 months ago. Since then he has had a pretty good streak going. __________________ "If you can't say something nice... don't say nothing at all." - Thumper the Rabbit "An awfully lot of time can be wasted waiting for the right time." - Gunsmoke's Doc Adams

April 26th, 2008, 02:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
Al Nico Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 288 5 Photos	My bet is maple veneer on both side too. All the MIM Standard sunbursts have a maple veneer, maybe they used one of the grain mis-matched ones for this black body.

April 26th, 2008, 10:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
robt57 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lost Yankee in Nashville Age: 51 Posts: 3,740 21 Photos	Veneer +1 I have heard [read] about refinishes of MIMs which have uncovered 6-7 piece bodies with a veneer on the front and back. I suspect that is the case here quite possibly. The veneer will let the seams show through less obviously, or not at all?? It has got to take one serious hell-ova shoot to get a chuck of finish off these poly. finishes. __________________ Leo's Great, Leo's Good, let us thank him for our... Twang!