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Old August 25th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Strat Trem setup?

I rarely used my strat since buying it a couple of years ago now. Mainly because I also got a LP a week later and because I put .10's on it and threw out the setup (I was then reminded why I always prefered hardtails). I've started to re-set it up again today but it still needs some work and I wondered before I went much further if theres a "best way" to go about it?

So far I've moved the rear springs and adjusted saddle heights to try and achieve the action I'd like. I've got the strings sitting 1.6mm off the 17th fret as per fenders blurb HERE. My trem is only raised by approx 2mm though and not 3.2 as per Fenders site and the intonations not done yet. I think that should be the last thing I do and until I'm happy everything is as it should be that will wait. I wouldn't say its staying perfectly in tune but then I've never used a trem system that did tbh

So is there a "right way" to do this? or should I just set it up as above? It plays fine, though I've got some doubts about the neck pup atm but thats a separate issue.

Also is there a "perfect trem angle"? So it would always raise say a tone and no further or tone and a half etc? or is that just purely personal control. May sound a stupid question but I've never really used a trem system much in over 20 years of twanging since my first main guitar was a hardtail strat

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Old August 25th, 2013, 07:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I rarely used my strat since buying it a couple of years ago now. Mainly because I also got a LP a week later and because I put .10's on it and threw out the setup (I was then reminded why I always prefered hardtails). I've started to re-set it up again today but it still needs some work and I wondered before I went much further if theres a "best way" to go about it?

So far I've moved the rear springs and adjusted saddle heights to try and achieve the action I'd like. I've got the strings sitting 1.6mm off the 17th fret as per fenders blurb HERE. My trem is only raised by approx 2mm though and not 3.2 as per Fenders site and the intonations not done yet. I think that should be the last thing I do and until I'm happy everything is as it should be that will wait. I wouldn't say its staying perfectly in tune but then I've never used a trem system that did tbh

So is there a "right way" to do this? or should I just set it up as above? It plays fine, though I've got some doubts about the neck pup atm but thats a separate issue.

Also is there a "perfect trem angle"? So it would always raise say a tone and no further or tone and a half etc? or is that just purely personal control. May sound a stupid question but I've never really used a trem system much in over 20 years of twanging since my first main guitar was a hardtail strat

Forgot to say its a 60's reissue heavy relic.
Can't do a link cos I'm on my phone but there's a fairly fresh thread on the main Telecaster forum called Strat v Tele (or Tele v Strat, can't remember) and someone posted a vid regarding tension. i.e. string tension = spring tension

Works well for me
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Old August 26th, 2013, 03:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Never tried either myself, but I've often seen a lot of talk about these two particular ways of trem setups.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Oyc6slYRc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy-F7iSIopA
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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By a strange coincidence, I decided to give the trem a go on my main jamming Strat this weekend. I always block off the trems with a small piece of wood, getting the springs nice and tight with the saddles about 2-3mm off the body.
I thought if I glue that block in place in the cavity I can use the trem and it will return to solid position that I like.

I lubed up the nut and saddles with Krytox (tiny amounts on the tip of a pin) and it worked brilliantly.
Now I have a trem that I can use if needed but still has that rock solid, stable tuning and feel that I like.
Got to say I played in a jam for about 4 hours last night and didn't feel the need to "vibe" at all, and stayed in tune all night, but it was good to know that after all these years I could if I wanted.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 05:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Here's the link to Strat vs. tele.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 06:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll give the Carl V setup a shot and try and make it work with the action as I prefer it. I guess the height of the rear of the bridge from the body will be dictated but the intervals being as per his spec to once I have them right.
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