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Old March 24th, 2013, 06:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Neck Angle / Bridge Issue?

For those of you that have seen my previous posts - of the "BenCaster" Build - you will already know that I can be a little obsessive. OK, I can be very obsessive! But hey, it's served me well over the years (can't say the same for my family, however) .

Anyway, I yet another question. In order to get proper (basically Fender spec) height on my strings I had to release the tension on my neck and then raise the saddles quite a bit (please see pics).



The saddles have M3 .5 screws, some of which are set quite deep now. Is that going to cause any problems down the road? I'm thinking about tapping them out so I can use longer 6/32 stainless screws. Is that reasonable, or am I going about this the wrong way?

The action is good now, and it's fairly even down the neck. The neck pocket has a tight fit going. I want to make sure it's done right, but I also don't want to screw up what I already have (just speaking theoretically here, as I've never actually done that myself - ha!) So, what do you guys think?









I welcome your comments -- give it to me straight -- but, hey, I am a "sensitive guy" If you do think I need to adj. the neck angle / pocket, please pass along your advice on how to best do that.

Thanks (as always)!
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Old March 24th, 2013, 07:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is the neck actually straight? Maybe it's the angle of the pictures but I see some bow.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 07:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Is the neck pocket 5/8" deep?
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Old March 24th, 2013, 07:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Is the neck pocket 5/8" deep?
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Yes, it's exactly that depth - evenly. Ideas?

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Is the neck actually straight? Maybe it's the angle of the pictures but I see some bow.
I'm pretty sure it's the angle of the guitar sitting [headstock tipped] up... There's ever so slight of a bow, however. Ideas?
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Old March 24th, 2013, 07:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Looks like you could rout the neck pocket down another .125 from here. The total height of the wood part of the neck should be 1" thick with a neck rout of .625. It looks thicker than that to me.
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It looks thicker than that to me.
That is what my eye is telling me also.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 08:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ditto. Something looks off and if the pocket is good the neck must be a bit too thick.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 08:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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That is what my eye is telling me also.
Me three, FWIW. What is the fretboard radius? If it's a super-flat radius, that could be throwing off my perception.
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I feel this might be best filed under the "ain't broke, don't fix it" category.
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Gentlemen:

Thank you each for your replies. I have 15/16th" of neck above the neck pocket rout. Suggestions, please....

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I feel this might be best filed under the "ain't broke, don't fix it" category.
Right now everything is very clean & tight. I can always tap the saddles and add slightly longer screws... Although (for all I know) the way the are now may never pose a problem. I am open to suggestions on this one.

PS - the radius is 9.5"
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Thank you each for your replies. I have 15/16th" of neck above the neck pocket rout. Suggestions, please....

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That can't be right. A neck is usually about 1.010" thick. The neck pocket is 5/8" which should leave about 0.385" above the body.
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Like I said above, you need to remove wood from the neck pocket so that you have the proper amount of height above the body. That would involve getting a stew mac or similar 1/2" tall pattern bit, and a large base on a router to keep it stable. You could put some wood around the body to support the router to keep it from tipping. Another option is to get another neck that is the right size. Another option would be to have somebody turn larger diameter saddles on a lathe.
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Maybe 15/32?
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That can't be right. A neck is usually about 1.010" thick. The neck pocket is 5/8" which should leave about 0.385" above the body.
Most likely the issue is with me... What exact measurement should I be taking, please?

OK, I think I now get it...(duh) - I have about 11/32" showing above the body...
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Bottom of heel wood to highest point of fretboard. Should be about 1" or so.
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There are some measurements in this small pic, hope you can see them.
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Bottom of heel wood to highest point of fretboard. Should be about 1" or so.
Looks like about 31/32" to me... does that make sense?
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Like I said above, you need to remove wood from the neck pocket so that you have the proper amount of height above the body. That would involve getting a stew mac or similar 1/2" tall pattern bit, and a large base on a router to keep it stable. You could put some wood around the body to support the router to keep it from tipping. Another option is to get another neck that is the right size. Another option would be to have somebody turn larger diameter saddles on a lathe.
What about my idea of tapping out the M3 - .50 length screws that are currently in place, and using longer 6/32 screws. I say that because I can't find a source for M3 screws longer than .50 - but I can with going to 6/32's.
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