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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dust collection

I'm looking for a dust collection impeller and motor without the rest of the collector parts. So far I haven't had any luck searching for one. Does anyone have a source for one? Thanks

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Old March 21st, 2013, 03:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't have a source for what you're looking for, but have friends who have built dust collection systems using just the impeller and motor from their existing bag type DC's. It all unbolts easily from the frame. Have you tried Craigslist for a used DC? That is likely what I would do. You could buy a used DC with the motor size and current requirement that you want, take the impeller and motor, and throw away the rest. It would likely be cheaper than buying news one also.
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Old March 21st, 2013, 04:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Penn State Industries used to sell stuff like that.
That is pretty much what you are looking for.

http://www.pennstateind.com/store/motor-blowers.html

I used to own one of these before my bigger Jet:
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/DC3-1M.html
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Old March 21st, 2013, 04:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Some good reading http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm
http://www.daltecfans.com/documents/...DFBrochure.pdf

Or you can buy a cheap HF one and modify it.

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/29578

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Old March 21st, 2013, 04:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Oh, sorry. I was going to post some photos of my rather impressive collection of dust down in my shop. I thought maybe there were some collectors or something. "and here we have my mahogany dust collection, over in this case, the maple. . ."

I did exactly what CApnCrunch describes, bought a cheap single-stage bagger from Grizzly, ditched the bag, and built a cyclone from plans that Wood Magazine published several years ago. Works great!
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Oh, sorry. I was going to post some photos of my rather impressive collection of dust down in my shop. I thought maybe there were some collectors or something. "and here we have my mahogany dust collection, over in this case, the maple. . ."

I did exactly what CApnCrunch describes, bought a cheap single-stage bagger from Grizzly, ditched the bag, and built a cyclone from plans that Wood Magazine published several years ago. Works great!
Do you still have those plans?
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Thanks for the replies. I found a penn state on cl that I'm might pick up. If that doesn't pan out then I'll try some of the other suggestions. Thanks.
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Harborfreight has one. Using a 20% off coupon, its a pretty good deal. Also, you can get a 25% off coupon for Easter Sunday.
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Harborfreight has one. Using a 20% off coupon, its a pretty good deal. Also, you can get a 25% off coupon for Easter Sunday.
Check the power requirements though - I could not get the HF 2 hp to start until I ran a separate 20A circuit. A lot of DCs will take a lot of power to run.

I run the 2hp HF DC and a box fan with a furnace filter taped to the intake to catch anything that got past the DC - works well for me.
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Check the power requirements though - I could not get the HF 2 hp to start until I ran a separate 20A circuit. A lot of DCs will take a lot of power to run.

I run the 2hp HF DC and a box fan with a furnace filter taped to the intake to catch anything that got past the DC - works well for me.
They also have a smaller model.

Is the 2HP DC from HF 220 or 110?
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http://www.harborfreight.com/13-gall...tor-31810.html

Somewhere I've seen plans for a garbage can separator to pull the big stuff off first, and the just the fines go in the bag. Looked pretty simple to make too.

http://lumberjocks.com/SimonSKL/blog/10097
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Somewhere I've seen plans for a garbage can separator to pull the big stuff off first, and the just the fines go in the bag. Looked pretty simple to make too.

http://lumberjocks.com/SimonSKL/blog/10097
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You can buy cyclone separators for 5-gallon buckets and 30 gallon trashcans too. These are expensive examples, I just grabbed the first link to come up.

http://www.woodcraft.com/PRODUCT/200...FQjhQgod8WwA4w

http://www.woodworkingshop.com/produ...FSSCQgodjQ0A0Q
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I bought the penn state DC I found on CL. Its really nice. I'm building my duct out of 2" PVC and rigid shop vac hoses. I'll post pictures when I'm done. Thanks for all the replies.
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I'm building my duct out of 2" PVC and rigid shop vac hoses.
Guess you didnt check out my links.
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looks interesting :

http://www.jpthien.com/cy.htm
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Guess you didnt check out my links.
I did read them and others. PVC is no problem.
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I bought the penn state DC I found on CL. Its really nice. I'm building my duct out of 2" PVC and rigid shop vac hoses. I'll post pictures when I'm done. Thanks for all the replies.


If you are doing PVC ducting, make sure that you run a bare copper wire through the ducting and earth it along the way and at each end and make sure the power unit is also earthed, otherwise there is a real danger of electrostatic charge generated on the surface of the PVC causing a spark and exploding the dust. Also earth the outside skin of the pvc ducting as well. Small particles in fast moving air in a confined space can pack a lot of fire power if it sparks an explosion. DC
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The ducting is too small. It will end up cutting the airflow by at least 50% and wont work as well on the fine dust.
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If you are doing PVC ducting, make sure that you run a bare copper wire through the ducting and earth it along the way and at each end and make sure the power unit is also earthed, otherwise there is a real danger of electrostatic charge generated on the surface of the PVC causing a spark and exploding the dust. Also earth the outside skin of the pvc ducting as well. Small particles in fast moving air in a confined space can pack a lot of fire power if it sparks an explosion. DC
I; personally, would go ahead and ground it too, but in the interest of sharing...

http://home.comcast.net/~rodec/woodw.../DC_myths.html
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I would ground it just to cut down on the odd zap you would get.
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