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Old March 14th, 2013, 04:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Toronado Gone Wrong

So I had a local print shop print a 1:1 scale of a toronado drawing I found here on TDPRI. When I got the drawing was too big, by a lot. So I took matters into my own hands.

My in-law's gave me some templates from stewmac for Christmas so I pulled them out of the closet and got to work.

It will be standard 25.5 inch scale with a hard tail bridge. The first one will have humbuckers 1 volume, 1 tone and a three way switch.





My daughter has already put an order in for one of her own.

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Old March 16th, 2013, 12:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Cool. Good luck with the build :)
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Old March 16th, 2013, 05:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Cool. Good luck with the build :)
Thanks man!!
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Old March 17th, 2013, 11:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So I had a chance to make my template and got started on the build. I jointed and planed up two peaces of sapele and glued them up yesterday. Today I cut the rough body shape on the band saw. After fighting with router, the locking plate kept falling out due to a stripped screw, I got the body perimeter mostly routed.



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Old March 17th, 2013, 11:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Until Shwack!!!!!!

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So rather than re-glue it I will re-shape that area with the disk sander.

I would have also liked to get the neck pocket routed today but that will wait til next time.

I received the fretboard and truss rod from Stew-Mac this week as well as planed up some maple for the neck.

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Old March 17th, 2013, 11:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Nice piece of wood.I think reshaping the lower bout will work fine
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Old March 17th, 2013, 12:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Nice piece of wood.I think reshaping the lower bout will work fine
I found a local timber supplier that has really good prices. I picked up both the maple and the Sapele for £17.00 or $25 in the US. Being American living over here I have to consider the exchange rate.

That's the beauty of it being for me, I can make changes when necessary.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 06:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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That's a cool shape! Is it the same as a Toronado or have you tweaked it slightly?
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Old March 18th, 2013, 02:07 AM   #9 (permalink)
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That's a cool shape! Is it the same as a Toronado or have you tweaked it slightly?
Thanks!! It is based on the Toronado. The nubs up front are pretty close but I offset the back to give it a little different look.
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Thanks!! It is based on the Toronado. The nubs up front are pretty close but I offset the back to give it a little different look.
That offset back end makes it look better than the original!
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Sometimes going wrong can be so right, I think it is looking great!
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Until Shwack!!!!!!

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So rather than re-glue it I will re-shape that area with the disk sander.

I would have also liked to get the neck pocket routed today but that will wait til next time.

I received the fretboard and truss rod from Stew-Mac this week as well as planed up some maple for the neck.

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No no no!

Don't re-shape it!

Just stick it down to a nice, flat piece of wood with a clean, straight edge on it and cut a minimal amout off the gouged area using a table saw.

Then glue a small piece of wood onto the body just big enough to re-do the original shape.

You have a real nice project going there with premium materials. Don't compromise on it now! It will set the tone for the rest of the project.

Keep in mind as well that, many people here will benefit from seeing how you fixed the problem instead of compromised the project, and they'll learn from it!
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I found a local timber supplier that has really good prices. I picked up both the maple and the Sapele for £17.00 or $25 in the US. Being American living over here I have to consider the exchange rate.

That's the beauty of it being for me, I can make changes when necessary.
I have a friend living in West Row, who I visit fairly often. Where did you get the wood? I'd be interested in having a little look there myself on my next visit...
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I have a friend living in West Row, who I visit fairly often. Where did you get the wood? I'd be interested in having a little look there myself on my next visit...
The name of the place is Wolllards in Mildenhall town. They have a good selection of sapele and ash. The staff is extremely helpful as well. From what they told me, they normally dont carry maple but they received some by accident.

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Happy spring everyone. Woke up this morning and it was snowing.


Right, time to get back to work on the guitar.
So I determined how much I needed to cut off to patch the chunk the router took off last weekend.


I then cut that area on the band saw and flattened it up on the disk sander.



I then trimmed up a block off the scrap I cut off when cutting the body out.


Glued it all up and will recut and shape that area tomorrow.


Next on the to do list for today. The maple board I joined and planed last weekend decided it was going to warp and bow back to its original condition it was in when I got it. So I decided I was going to make a laminated neck for this one. I also had a piece is cherry laying around too. So I re jointed and planed both.

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I then cut them into 1 inch strips and turned them on their sides and flipped the boards so the grain was running in opposite directions and glued them up.


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With that done, I got started on making some working templates for the neck pocket and pickups. I took my stewmac neck pocket template and added tape on the inside until it fit my neck template. I then cut a piece of MDF to 6 inches wide, made a center line and marked out where everything was going to go. I then started removing some of the material with a forstener bit.


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That's all for today. More tomorrow.

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Good ideas; adding to the damaged body and retaining original design, and also laminating the neck. I laminate most of my necks.
Don't fancy the snow much though. I used to have to work in it when I lived in the UK.
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