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Old July 22nd, 2012, 09:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First Build: Ash, Whitewash, Tru-Oil

Hey Everybody. I decided that instead of modifying my tele, I'd build a partscaster! I actually started this build months ago, so I'll post American-Idol style. The first several will be stuff that has already happened, and then I'll catch up and (hopefully) finish in real time.

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Old July 22nd, 2012, 09:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here is the body, and also my workshop in sunny Virginia January! It's a Guitar Mill Blowout body. It's swamp ash, and came routed, with guide holes drilled for the bridge and string holes.
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 09:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I picked up a copy of "The Homespun Telecaster," and "Shaping the Telecaster Body," and the templates by Mr. Ron Kirn, and my Dad and I drilled the neck, bridge and string holes in my Grandfather's metal shop.

Then I picked up the suggested 12" drill bit and drilled the hole from the neck pickup to the control panel.

Drilling the 7/8ths hole for the jack didn't go as well as planned, but not the end of the world I guess.
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 09:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Ordered a Warmoth Pro neck from the showcase, 11/16" Nut Width, Boatneck Contour, 10-16" Compound Radius, Black Face Dots Inlays, Medium Jumbo (6130) frets. Also decided to have them provide the nut, and also ordered some Gotoh vintage tuners while I was at it.

By this time, it was the end of February and it was warm enough to spray some nitro! I put on 8 coats. Two on Friday, Three on Saturday, Three on Sunday. I followed directions from the experts in Finely Finished. I used Minwax Lacquer.

I taped off the nut, warmed up the rattle can, and suspended the neck from a boom mic stand with a coat hanger. When I was done I hung it up from the rafters in the basement

One coat was three passes at 12 to 18 inches. Then I would wait 30 minutes before the next coat.
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Old July 24th, 2012, 09:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Next I spent several weeks with some occasional sanding.

There were some dents on the edges to sand down.

A buddy lent me a cool little plane to attempt a roundover.
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Old July 24th, 2012, 09:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Here is a mock-up.

Pickgaurd is a 5 hole, Black/White/Black from WD.

The bridge has compensated saddles and is from Callaham. Yay Virginia!

The pickups are Wilde Keystones, because of all the rave reviews.

Since I've never soldered before, I bought the pre-wired assembly from Acme Guitar Works. It's the four-way switch with the series option in position 4, all the way to the neck side. I went with the 50's look knobs and switch. It seems like a great deal!
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Old July 24th, 2012, 09:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Then it was time to attempt the decal.

Everything went fine I guess, until I took "bury" in lacquer a little too literally.

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/finely-fi...l-problem.html

Colt W. Knight and Kennedycaster helped me out with some advice. Thanks too to Glen Smith for the bump.
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Old July 24th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I sanded down to 400 and stained with Minwax White Wash Picking Wood Stain. It's water-based. I painted it on with a new foam brush, then wiped it off using a clean rag after 2-3 minutes, as per the instructions.

I did the top, let it dry over night, flipped it over and then did the back. After two coats of that, it stuck to the newspaper it was resting on. Stain also raised the grain a lot.

So I sanded it down and then back to 400.

The next round of whitewash worked much better.
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Old July 24th, 2012, 09:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Been there and chickened out:http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaste...ing-stain.html
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Old July 24th, 2012, 10:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Looking good so far Quake! That tool for the roundover looks pretty cool. How did it work out? I like hand toolsI actually dove in and loved the way it came out.

Quake I think you are gonna love the white wash. Mine came out with a tint of amber to it because I used DeWaxed Shellac as the sealer, but I really like using the Picklin' stuff exactly the slight transparency i was looking for. Keep up the great work!
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Old July 24th, 2012, 11:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Those Guitar Mill blowouts looked intriguing. Any further comments on yours?

Good luck with your build.
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Old July 25th, 2012, 12:38 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Good luck with your build Quake - I love the "matter of fact-ness" of After two coats of that, it stuck to the newspaper it was resting on. We've all been there - or somewhere similar.

Arkimedes - that looks great. Love the choice of knobs and pick guard. Is that your own design? If so, well done - it's very elegant. That's a really cool (warm) all white look you've got going there. Would look better with a tele headstock though
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Old July 25th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
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What's this magical decal you are talking about!? If that's just like the logo, then that's pretty sick. I'm going to get my friend who does woodburning as art to burn me a logo on my headstock.

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Old July 25th, 2012, 09:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I appreciate all the comments!

Thanks Bob! So far so good. I'll put up pix soon.

Arkimedes- great job! That finish is exactly what I was looking for. The knobs really make it. I'm thinking that I'll practice soldering skills by esquiring it one day, and when I do, I'll use a parchment (or white) pickguard.

The plane worked fine for the roundover, I don't really know what I'm doing, so I'd be plane'n along and suddenly it would catch and I'd have to come from the other direction. It's a very slight roundover, but I think enough so it doesn't have a sharp edge.

Tom- I'd recommend Guitar Mill for a blowout body. The were really nice on the phone, and the only problem I know of with the body was the three little blowouts along the edge, and they were all on the back of the body. Since I don't have access to a router, it really did the trick. I got this one for $49!

Thanks ModerneGuy! I think part of it is that so I've been working for 6 months now. All the wounds are healed! But soon I'll be back in real time, so I'm sure the next ones with sting more!

Bentley- Yes, the decal is the logo. I got one from a prominent person on the ebay. The I followed Colt W. Knights instructions from here, there is a cool Youtube in there too:
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Old July 25th, 2012, 09:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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So... then I Google'd guitar and Tru-oil, and the first link there said to sand down to 600 grit and then clean it off with Naptha or compressed air. Wow! that naptha is something. I'd put it on the paper towel and it would be dry by the time I wiped it on the body. When I finished I was concerned about spontaneous combustion, so I put the paper towels on the charcoal grill to dry out for a while before I threw them away.

It took me a few tries to set up a good system for applying the Tru-oil. What worked was I used the same coat hanger that I'd used to hang the neck from the rafters in the basement. I placed a clean rag on the deck, and rested the body on there while holding it up from the hanger with my left hand. My right hand was then free to rub in the Tru-Oil.

I took an old jelly jar that had a fairly wide mouth. It was maybe an 8 ounce jar. The important thing was I wanted to get my fingers all the way to the bottom of it pretty easily. I would put approximately 20 drops of the Tru-oil in the jar.

The first time I rubbed it in with my fingers. I knew it was a bad idea, but the label says to do that. Anyway, it worked ok, but then my hand had varnish all over it. Cleaning it off with the Naptha wasn't very pleasant. I picked up some blue Nitrile finishing gloves from the section of Lowes that sells the varnish and stains and stuff like that. I highly recommend these gloves. I think they really did the trick.

So I would put two fingers into the jar and then run them up and down on the body until it stopped feeling slick and started feeling sticky. I'd also make sure there were no drips. I'd do the front and then the back and then the top and sides. Finally I'd pick it up and cover the bottom with the last bit of Tru-oil as I walked back inside to hang it up.

I put on a coat in the morning, and then in the evening. In the morning, I would first rub a dark grey (ultra fine) 3M scotch pad over it. Just a little bit. Seemed like a good thing to do based on what I read.

So, I put 2 coats a day for 7 days. Then I went on vacation. I don't have any idea how many coats to use, but since I'd already been gone 8 days, and I read that it needs to dry for 14 days, I figured that I was almost there an may as well give it a try.

In any case, it gave me a few days to start the build thread!

Tomorrow is day 14.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 09:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So, today it's time to try to install the gotoh vintage tuners! Turns out the holes are not big enough for the bushings. This is a common problem out there on the Internet, but I just found out about it 30 minutes ago. It's a bummer.

I wrapped some 220 sand paper around a screwdriver an sanded it that way. I didn't want to overshoot, so I checked every minute or so for about ten minutes.

I got the first one, but it's getting late. The others can wait until tomorrow.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 08:02 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The sand paper wrapped screwdriver is taking forever. So a friend recommended I try a rat tail file. I just picked up this:
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Old July 29th, 2012, 08:34 AM   #18 (permalink)
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The rat tail file is a good idea, but don't get to overzealous and take to much off! Love the whitwash look. I may have to try this, if I get the nerve to do one. I should try this as I could build one and take my time, I think I could come up with some parts, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................
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Old July 29th, 2012, 07:21 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Thanks Motwang, I'll try to be real careful and check frequently. It would be terrible to make the holes too big!
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Old July 29th, 2012, 07:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Question about finishing the body cavities

Hey Everybody,

Do you have to finish the body cavities? I just realized that I didn't get any varnish in them at all! In the routes, it's just bare wood.

Thanks, I appreciate it.
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