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Old February 18th, 2012, 09:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Claro Walnut birdseye and flame maple THINLINE

So, it begins. been lurking around this forum for some time slowly collecting pieces to build a thinline.

To be honest, i am new to guitar, took some lessons 15 years ago and hated the teacher and until about 2 years ago i haven't picked one up. I purchased an acoustic and have been slowly learning a few chords..

I have quite a bit of woodworking experience and mostly build my own custom hifi speakers but have always wanted a thinline, so my journey begins, I will appreciate any advice or experience along the way.


I spent a small fortune on the wood, claro walnut top, walnut body and birdseye neck, I got the neck off ebay about a year ago. I started to glue the pieces together and as typical this project will probably take me many months to complete.
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Old February 18th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm looking forward to this build, those are beautiful woods you have chosen.
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Old February 18th, 2012, 09:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yup, nice wood!
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Old February 19th, 2012, 01:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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thought I would share a few of some past hifi builds..


Ill finish clamping body tomorrow, i will need to find a local shop with a thickness planer and sander. all told its about 3/16 too thick..
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Old February 20th, 2012, 10:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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already my first question if you would be so kind.

I intend on building a 22 fret (thats the neck I bought) double f hole thinline with 2 humbuckers set up to be split. I purchased the Ron kern template set long ago and it is set up for the single coils.

I have been searching for about 2 hours and as of yet have found some decent info on a template for this routing? I know stew mack has a good cheap template for a single humbucker. i am concerned about exact pickup location?

any advice or direction as to where to look would be great..
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Old February 20th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Check out THIS LINK

You will find a wealth of plans.

I feel envious, as I've got massive cold / flu and am unable to work on my builds. This one looks great!
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Old February 20th, 2012, 01:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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from the angle of the picture, the heel of the neck looks like it is for a strat. How does it fit in your template?
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Old February 21st, 2012, 08:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Check out THIS LINK

You will find a wealth of plans.

I feel envious, as I've got massive cold / flu and am unable to work on my builds. This one looks great!
wow, thanks! great link. However i dont see any measurements for the pickup locations.
Would it be fair to assume that as long as my pickups are centred left to right correctly, a small bit of movement up or down will slightly effect tone and is not as important?
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from the angle of the picture, the heel of the neck looks like it is for a strat. How does it fit in your template?
nope its a tele, I made sure
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Old February 21st, 2012, 10:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
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A little play in the exact pickup locations is not really a big deal, so don't worry about that.

Also, didn't you say this was a thinline? It looks like you have glued everything all together already, how are you going to chamber it?
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Old February 21st, 2012, 05:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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nope its a tele, I made sure
That's why everyone asks for more pictures around here! To keep from asking silly questions.

Looks good so far.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 11:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Also, didn't you say this was a thinline? It looks like you have glued everything all together already, how are you going to chamber it?[/QUOTE]



it is in deed a thinline. The flamed Claro is the top and has not been glued to the body.

I was unable to find 1.5 inch body blank walnut in a nice figure or grain that i liked but was able to find two separate boards one is about an inch and the other 3/4, I will send it through a thickness planer once there all glued together and bring them down to about 1.5. the top is a little shy of 1/4 so that will bring me to the required 1.75 total thickness.. the wood was wide enough without the strip of flamed maple, it was entirely for looks..

I would hope that all these pieces wont effect its integrity..

A shame i couldn't find a solid body blank with this nice of grain..
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 08:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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clamping all these pieces has been trickier than i first thought.. one piece left..
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Old February 27th, 2012, 09:59 AM   #14 (permalink)
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asked around at the local tool shop and found a guy with a drum sander. he was willing to work for a case of beer. took about 13 passes to bring it down to and inch and a half. I wish i had his shop!


Its almost a shame that this is the back and not the top, although i dont know if i love the maple stripe anymore.

I ordered figured maple binding and a humbucker template from stewmac and await its arrival..

I was thinking of adding a red burst type finish on the edges, has anyone seen that on walnut?
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Old February 28th, 2012, 04:27 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The red won't stand out too much, unless you do it on the whole thing, it will only enhance the color....... as well, it will be difficult to get the dye to not bleed into the maple on the back....
Since the neck is a fairly deep honey color, playing off of that on the body will give the best blend of colors so the whole project flows together
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Old February 28th, 2012, 10:38 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I keep going back and forth on the finish.. I know what i want in my head but still trying to visualize. There are not to many example of walnut that has been accented with dye or creative finishing, it seems most just clear it.

I dont want just a plain clear, but want to try some dyes as an transparent accent. It has to be transparent and have depth.

I was thinking of staining just the maple stripe to a walnut Colour but accentuating the flame, I assume i would use a very dark brown on just the maple and then sand it off allowing it to remain on the flame and then following that up with a lighter red brown? Would a simple taped edge and a light amount of dye applied keep it from running into the walnut.

i am also thinking of using a red/brown to create a very transparent darker edge, keep in mind I plan on installing a maple binding, but that may change. To keep it transparent and add depth i thought to add this to the nitro clear on the second or third coat.

I originally thought to create a darker burst edge to help hide the sandwich of wood planks.


I like this transparent edge Les paul,, But appreciate he has started with a much lighter spalted maple..

any ideas? or photo examples on walnut.
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Trying to dye the walnut without dying the maple would be difficult. Adding a little bit of red tone to walnut really enhances it, IMO.

You could spray garnet shellac, and that would bring out the claro and maple's figuring without making it too artificial. If you wanted to add a subtle burst around the edges you could do that after the garnet shellac coat.

Do a test on some scrap first.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 07:48 PM   #18 (permalink)
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had to get a new bandsaw blade. I am taking very small passes with the router to avoid any tear out..

Did some research on finishing claro, and i definitely like the blood red look but i dont want to effect the white stripe on the claro or the maple,, NO IDEAS?? It seems claro is popular for shotguns and some like it red but there really not much info..
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Old March 5th, 2012, 12:12 AM   #19 (permalink)
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OMG that neck is FANTASTIC.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 12:16 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Looking good so far!
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