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asked about the "steps" -- I was referring to the ideas you shared about the truss rod slot, fillet, and access hole. |
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I made my filler strip out of maple and just used the pattern I used to make the router jig for routing the truss rod slot. I kept the end straight down by the heel of the neck and curved the rod upwards toward the nut. I usually make my necks .125 thinner at the nut than the neck at the 16th fret, so that .125 curved ramp up compensates for that which also means the adj rod nut cavity can be shallower as well. That is a weak spot on gibson necks. If you used an allen head type nut, you could make the adj cavity narrower too. One one neck with a hot rod and allen screw head, I literally just drilled a hole instead of that big cavity for access to it.
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Another in a series of posts in which I avoid the tricky steps
of the build... The jig (card eliminates any slight movement of sled) and the saw, with strip glued on the side for depth control. 22 fret slots, plus top slot marking top of fretboard: |
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Thanks Mark, I hadn't thought of that.
I'm looking at this as an opportunity to get obsessive with the problem of plugging a small hole. If I really can't get a good result by plugging, I'll consider veneer. The plan for finishing is to try to replicate the finish on my old Melody Maker, which was a burst. On the back I plan to use dark grain filler followed by clear, with maybe time lightly tinted coats before the clear. I don't know exactly how I'm going to do the yellow on the front, as it's somewhat opaque. I guess I'll have to use dye plus a little white pigment -- any thoughts? ![]() |
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> after painting a light coat of transparent white on the > Mahogany, light enough not to get into the pores, let it > dry and grain filled with clear lawrence mcfadden filler, The finish that Scatter Lee got is very close to what I'm going for. I guess transparent white means clear mixed with a little white pigment. What I don't get is why this was done before grain filling. Thanks again -- I've asked this question in various places and until now hadn't found the answer. |
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Best bet is to ask SL the whys of the way he did that. Just guessing that it probably allows the grain to show through the transparent coats later on. If filled first the white probably covers everything.
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Thanks; I've just asked Scatter about it. In the meantime I
found this interesting post in mylespaul.com. http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luth...ml#post2061086 |
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hole fixing
I mentioned that the symmetry of the body dazzled me
and I ended up routing the control cavity on the back, not the front. That means what used to be the back is now the front, so the holes used to mount the body template are now on the back, not the front. Got that? ![]() The gist of it is that I've got a couple of holes to fill on this nice piece of mahogany. The holes are about 3/32" so shouldn't be too hard to fill. I wanted to make a plug with the grain going along the width, not the length. You don't want the end grain on the surface of the body -- it'll soak up more finish than the surrounding wood and stick out. I found a cut-out that was the perfect starting point: Sand the edges to about the radius of a 3/32" bit: Slice off a bit with the X-Acto saw: A little hand sanding gets its round and the right size: Then a dab of Titebond, jam it in the hole, and saw off. On the first one I didn't align the grain very well. First plug after sanding a little. You can spot it: On the second one the grain's oriented properly, and the color looks good. Can you spot it? The bits point to the two repairs. The one on the right is the first one. No problem. But, like I said, filling holes this small is pretty easy. It took 20 minutes max to do the job. Last edited by flatfive; November 23rd, 2011 at 09:01 AM. |
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Nice fix! I have some honduran body blanks here that have some naturally occuring worm holes in it. Maybe I should send them to you for plugging? :-)
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Earlier I was wondering what to do about the pickguard.
The modification that had been made to my MM to handle two humbuckers was very funky (as in "funky smelling", not "funky music" ![]() However, after looking at lots of pictures I'm inclined to use the same funky pickguard arrangement. Why?
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Considering the original MM was one single-coil at the bridge, I would think the "funky" horse has already left the barn
Don't even have my 24" scale finished and I glued up a neck blank for a possible Fender Musicmaster. See what you've instigated?
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A big part of learning a new guitar building trick seems to
be simply in realizing that it's not a big deal. Today I got the angled neck heel sorted out. The Melody Maker has a flat neck pocket, and a 2 degree angle on the neck. I needed about an extra quarter inch on the end of the neck, so I cut a piece of scrap mahogany to about that thickness with a hand saw. Glued it on: The scrap piece had been used for scarf joint practice. Here's after routing excess off the sides: I decided it would be easiest to make the 2 degree angle using the ROSS plus careful hand sanding. I drew the 2 degree angle on the side of the neck. There are also lines indicating the neck pocket area (neck's not cut to length yet). Got the angle roughly correct with the ROSS, then used this sanding block, which is corian glued to a plywood block, with 80 grit sandpaper glued on using adhesive spray. I did quite a bit of hand sanding, checking often for squareness and flatness. All done. In this view you can see a little problem on the upper left. My hand sawing wasn't so great -- one area was a little low. I could have kept sanding until the surface was completely flat, but 1) I was tired of sanding, and 2) if I took material off the bottom of the neck to gain gluing surface, then I'd lose gluing surface on the side of the neck, which I've heard is important for neck rigidity. Also, about a third of that low area was removed when the neck was cut to length. Last edited by flatfive; November 26th, 2011 at 08:52 AM. |
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neck pocket
I figured that since this is a glue-on neck, the neck
pocket had better be a tight fit. I started with a long piece of 1/2" MDF. I drew a straight line along its center it and double-sided taped the neck to the MDF, with neck's center aligned with the line on the MDF. Next poplar pieces with straight edges were double-sided taped along the sides of the neck heel. The neck was removed and the MDF routed, using the poplar pieces as a template. Then I cut the MDF, leaving about 12" from heel end of the neck pocket to the end of the MDF piece. With a long piece of MDF I can get good alignment with the body's center line. Anyway, then penciled the neck pocket and hogged material out with a drill. The first couple times I did neck pocket templates, I used a piece of MDF routed to the shape of the guitar body. But I think all you really need is a longish piece of MDF and a center line. Four pieces of Duck double-sided tape is enough to hold the template firmly to the body. Routed pocket (still needs a little clean up along the edges): My big worry was that the neck might be loose in the pocket. In reality it was a little too tight for the neck to fit. I sanded the sides of the neck rather than the pocket, figuring it was easier to keep the neck sides straight than the neck pocket sides. Once the neck fit into the pocket, I did some fine tuning to get a good fit in the corners and at the heel. There's a tiny bit of wiggle but it's about as good as I'd hoped for on my first set neck. Next time I'll go a little more slowly with the sanding along the side of the neck. Wish I could glue the neck in right now! But I have to wait until the neck is about finished. |
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