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Old July 10th, 2011, 07:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What is Naphtha called in the UK?

Hi folks,

May seem like a silly question, but could anyone tell me what the UK equivalent of Naphtha is called?

Is it just white spirit?

Many thanks, in advance!

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Old July 10th, 2011, 07:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi, i think its just regular lighter fluid
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Old July 10th, 2011, 07:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Lighter fluid
Lighter fuel
sometimes Ronsonol

(never hear 'Naptha'!)
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Old July 10th, 2011, 08:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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zippo fuel
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Old July 10th, 2011, 09:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Lighter Petrol???
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Old July 10th, 2011, 09:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Lighter Petrol???
I always get that confused with
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Just regular old lighter fluid for your zippo is Naptha.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 12:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old July 10th, 2011, 05:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Except that buying as Zippo fuel prob'ly costs you 10 times more.....
Technically, Naphtha is a common name for a group of higher order petroleum destillates. There are several versions available as camp fuels, sometimes called power fuels. I think heptane is the most common clean version, but I'm not totally certain......
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Old July 10th, 2011, 06:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I was looking at Wikipedia and found this use for naptha.

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To lightly wear the finish (polish) off guitars when preparing "relic" instruments
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Zippo fluid is not all naptha, it is my understanding that it also contains oil(s).
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Old July 10th, 2011, 06:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Manny the camper wants to buy some white...
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Old July 10th, 2011, 07:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Zippo fluid is not all naptha, it is my understanding that it also contains oil(s).
The MSDS states :

"Proprietary: NO
Ingredient: VM & P NAPHTHA; (ALIPHATIC PETROLEUM DISTILLATES); BP:185F/85C
@ 760 MM/HG. VP:38 MM/HG @ 68F/20C. CNTNS INGREDS 2 & 3.
Ingredient Sequence Number: 01
Percent: 19
NIOSH (RTECS) Number: 1003161VN
CAS Number: 64742-89-8
OSHA PEL: 400 PPM MFR
ACGIH TLV: N/K (FP N)
-------------------------------------
Proprietary: NO
Ingredient: TOLUENE (SARA III)
Ingredient Sequence Number: 02
Percent: <7
NIOSH (RTECS) Number: XS5250000
CAS Number: 108-88-3
OSHA PEL: 200 PPM
ACGIH TLV: 50 PPM
-------------------------------------
Proprietary: NO
Ingredient: CYCLOHEXANE (SARA III)
Ingredient Sequence Number: 03
Percent: <3.5
NIOSH (RTECS) Number: GU6300000
CAS Number: 110-82-7
OSHA PEL: 300 PPM
ACGIH TLV: 300 PPM
-------------------------------------
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Proprietary: NO
Ingredient: VM & P NAPHTHA; (ALIPHATIC PETROLEUM DISTILLATES); CONTAINS
INGS 5 & 6.
Ingredient Sequence Number: 04
Percent: 81
NIOSH (RTECS) Number: 1003161VN
CAS Number: 64742-89-8
OSHA PEL: 300 PPM MFR
ACGIH TLV: 300 PPM MFR
-------------------------------------
Proprietary: NO
Ingredient: XYLENE (SARA III)
Ingredient Sequence Number: 05
Percent: <8
NIOSH (RTECS) Number: ZE2100000
CAS Number: 1330-20-7
OSHA PEL: 100 PPM
ACGIH TLV: 100 PPM
-------------------------------------
Proprietary: NO
Ingredient: BENZENE, ETHYL-; (ETHYL BENZENE) (SARA III)
Ingredient Sequence Number: 06
Percent: 2
NIOSH (RTECS) Number: DA0700000
CAS Number: 100-41-4
OSHA PEL: 100 PPM
ACGIH TLV: 100 PPM
-------------------------------------"


No added oils, only naphta with diluted sub-elements.

http://www.nafaa.org/ZIPPO_MSDS.pdf
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That's naptha the chemical right enough...

In the UK naptha is called naptha, as a chemical. It contains some very nasty chemicals e.g. toluene and xylene. Also called pet-ether in a lab (petroleum-ether, not to be confused with "ether" the anaesthetic). I'm not sure the public could buy this as it contains banned carcinogens, but we can buy lighter fuel containing the same evil stuff. We can buy unleaded petrol containing absolutely-verboten class-1 carcinogen benzene (good thing we got rid of that nasty lead). Go figure

What is meant by "naptha" as a solvent/cleaner on here is petrol-lighter fuel (which /do not/ run on petrol/gasoline) e.g. Zippo.
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Possibly benzine.

I used to buy it in quart cans from hardware stores, and it was labeled as Benzine, VM & P Naphtha.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 08:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
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White gas.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Also, just regular ol' parts cleaner/degreaser, like what you'd get at an automotive paint store is naphtha too. A gallon is cheap and lasts a long time.

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Hi folks,

May seem like a silly question, but could anyone tell me what the UK equivalent of Naphtha is called?

Is it just white spirit?

Many thanks, in advance!
Good question Munki and I have found it confusing on seeking the same answer myself when I have seen people say White Spirit, isn't, Naptha.

Maybe there are different types of White Spirit - I don't know. From what I have found Naptha (as is VM&P) is a solvent used for thinning oil based Varnish/Paint. (Sounds like White Spirit to me! lol)

I could point you to Behlen UK Naptha for straight, Naptha.

Or Barretine

Barretine PDF States its White Spirit is Naptha

W&N UK -Artists White Spirit is Naptha

W&N States its Naptha

At least those two say: Naptha.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 03:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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White spirit is a mineral oil based product , more related to kerosene than to petrol.
Naphtha is a very light derivative, also oil based, but of much higher order.
The closest we can get here in Europe, is heptane in the pure form, or as various form of burner fluid, ligher fluid, camping fluid, etc.
Higher order solvents are getting more endmore difficult to buy freely here in Europe... in Norway, I cannot buy nitrocellulose lacquers anymore, except for stupid small cans of .15L for 15 !
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Old July 13th, 2011, 07:29 PM   #20 (permalink)
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In the UK...

UK white spirits for thinning paints and cleaning brushes is in military stores parlance "OM1" i.e. "Oil Mineral No.1" The number relates to its viscosity roughly the SAE - it is a thin mineral oil, and thus it is a collection of various petroleum derived "solvents".
It is similar but not quite the same as lighter fuel, which /is/ the naphtha refered to for cleaning guitar bits.
Pure naphtha is "petroleum ether" (pet. ether), this again is a petroleum distillate mixture.

Nitrocellulose lacquer can be had in bottles from Halfords and elsewhere, as the base for various spray paints and as the clear varnish top-coat, same stuff.

White gas is Coleman fuel, another proprietary variation on the white spirit / lighter fuel.

Fyi "sweeping compound, oil absorbent" is Fullers-earth cat litter.
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