Another paisley build

[studysession]

Truly inspiring - I want to do a paisley build.

[robt57]

Originally Posted by adirondak5

Yes , I did see your paisley thread robt57 , your solution to the round over looks like a good one , I was pondering that as I was planning this one , my original plan was to route the round over after the fabric was glued on and had a few coats of polycrylic

Thinking along those lines, I thought of binding one, but not sure the heat and tug on threads would manifest into anything but trouble.

[adirondak5]

Originally Posted by studysession

Truly inspiring - I want to do a paisley build.

Go for it , be sure to start a build thread.

[adirondak5]

Originally Posted by robt57

Thinking along those lines, I thought of binding one, but not sure the heat and tug on threads would manifest into anything but trouble.

I think if you took a purfling cutter like the one buckocaster51 has and scored the paisley fabric all around the body and then routed with the binding bit it might work , or maybe make some type of cutter with a hobby knife or safety razor , to score the fabric the width of the binding .

[crazydave911]

Originally Posted by adirondak5

This paisley here , I don't know what it reminds me of , Laugh In , Carlin , Zappa , a lot of things I guess

The men, the legends, and my favorite band (if you look and listen real close, you'll see a Tele and hear a 12 string-----for this old child of the 60s & 70s, it doesn't get any better than this


The safest one I could find (watch the one about cats )


Been on vacation (in the wilds of the mountains of Georgia ), great job Herb


Dave

[adirondak5]

Originally Posted by crazydave911

The men, the legends, and my favorite band (if you look and listen real close, you'll see a Tele and hear a 12 string-----for this old child of the 60s & 70s, it doesn't get any better than this
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQIzm3ypzBQ">YouTube Link</a>

The safest one I could find (watch the one about cats )
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om_yq4L3M_I">YouTube Link</a>

Been on vacation (in the wilds of the mountains of Georgia ), great job Herb

Dave

Thanks Dave , that is some great stuff , those guys/bands are legends . Carlin still makes me crack up , I still turn up the volume when a Moody Blues tune comes on , and my son in law has discovered Zappa , and he is impressed.

[mkhhunt]

Originally Posted by adirondak5

I think if you took a purfling cutter like the one buckocaster51 has and scored the paisley fabric all around the body and then routed with the binding bit it might work , or maybe make some type of cutter with a hobby knife or safety razor , to score the fabric the width of the binding .

Just route for the binding before you do the fabric. It's fiddly but it works well.

[adirondak5]

I don't know if this is gonna bite me in the you know what or not , but I am thinking of using that GFS RW board neck that I had for my thinline that would not fit the vintage tuners on this paisley build , I don't see any other problems with that neck , Wilkinson EZ-lok's fit the headstock fine. I am thinking to spray the same color on the headstock face as the burst on the body , so I don't want to use a figured piece of maple , the neck fits the body fine , I just need to strip the finish and remove the inserts , drill and dowel the insert holes and drill new mount holes . Lets give it a whirl.

Neck mount holes drilled and doweled with hard maple dowel




Almost done sanding back to bare wood



While the glue sets up I need to clean up the shop a bit , it's getting crowded in here .

[adirondak5]

OK , got the dowels sanded down nice and level , had a little divot in one of them so I put in a little filler . Should be good to go for new mounting holes .



Also cleaned up a little , much better , now it'll be easier to mess up again

[adirondak5]

Got a little amber on the neck , it'll get some clear in a bit , taped off the face of the headstock , I'll just give that a coat or two of some clear , don't need any amber there.

[adirondak5]

Got 3 coats of deft Sanding Sealer sprayed on , I didn't thin it down much 10 oz. sealer to 1 oz thinner , I kinda want it to go on heavy , got a little bit of orange peel but nothing bad . I will probably go with as many coats as I think are necessary to fill the fabric , level sand and then go with Seagrave clear , it's gonna take a bit to fill the fabric and all but so far so good.





I gotta say again I love this HVLP spray rig , I can't recommend them enough , this is the Husky Pro , but I think any decent HVLP is a major step forward in finishing .

[studysession]

Nice!!

[adirondak5]

Originally Posted by studysession

Nice!!

Thanks studysession !

Got a late start this morning , today is my daughter's birthday and for her gift she wanted to go fluke fishing with Mom and Dad , I didn't argue with that for a second , no keepers , (I caught 4 shorties) but a beautiful way to spend the morning.



Started spraying more sanding sealer on the paisley when I got home , thinned it more today , 6 oz sanding sealer , 3 oz thinner , my thinking was to try and get it to flow a bit better today and get rid of some of the orange peel from yesterdays spraying , it's working , it is filling very nicely , a few more coats and I think I'll be ready to level sand .

[robt57]

What sealer are you using/thinning ??

[adirondak5]

Originally Posted by robt57

What sealer are you using/thinning ??

Hi robt57 , I am using Deft Sanding Sealer , you can see the can on the floor inside my shed in the pic in post #93 , it worked pretty good thinning it , got rid of alot of orange peel , I got 3 coats on it today so it'll hang for a few days and then I'll level sand it if all looks good in a few days , then I'll give it a coat or two of the Seagrave clear , then I need to mix up my burst color , probably Seafoam Green with some Seagrave and Mixol tints , and then more clear , a lot of work left but I am happy with where it's at now.

[robt57]

I know it is lacquer based sealer, but not sure I understand the point to thin the sealer, for bite ?


And a quick trip to the Deft site tech Sheet for that stuff:

THINNING RECOMMENDATIONS
LACQUER SANDING SEALER is supplied at application
viscosity. Thinning is not recommended.

[Colt W. Knight]

Originally Posted by robt57

I know it is lacquer based sealer, but not sure I understand the point to thin the sealer, for bite ?


And a quick trip to the Deft site tech Sheet for that stuff:

THINNING RECOMMENDATIONS
LACQUER SANDING SEALER is supplied at application
viscosity. Thinning is not recommended.

Part of the reason thinning isn't recommended is because it would increase the amount of VOCs, and they would fall under different regulations. And lowes probably wouldn't carry it anymore. Or at least, that is how it was explained to me.

[robt57]

Originally Posted by Colt W. Knight

Part of the reason thinning isn't recommended is because it would increase the amount of VOCs, and they would fall under different regulations. And lowes probably wouldn't carry it anymore. Or at least, that is how it was explained to me.

Red tape the answer, come on now, what are the odds?


Question then IS, from experienced users, what gains from thinning would be my question? And using the can as a concentrate and thinning to use with a cheaper product to build volume ain't terrible. ;)

[adirondak5]

They don't recommend thinning because it raises the VOC rating , that's right on the back of the can , spraying it unthinned like I did yesterday is good to build up a nice heavy layer , but it does dry fast and is more prone to orange peel , thinning it down alows it to flow more , it takes a bit longer for it to dry and it levels out better . I get less orange peel with the thinner sanding sealer , and also got rid of some of the orange peel from yesterdays spraying , that's really the reason I thinned it . This is all IMO stuff , but it has worked well for me.

[Colt W. Knight]

Originally Posted by robt57

Red tape the answer, come on now, what are the odds?


Question then IS, from experienced users, what gains from thinning would be my question? And using the can as a concentrate and thinning to use with a cheaper product to build volume ain't terrible. ;)

I have sprayed DEFT sealer thinned and straight. I couldn't really tell a big difference. I found to build volume, it worked a lot better to just brush it on.

Deft Lacquer Brushing Sanding Sealer is about 10$ a quart. A quart of lacquer thinner is about 8$. Not a lot of savings there. I guess if you bought the gallon SS (30$) and gallon thinner(15$) it would work out better. But a gallon of Sherwin Williams 24% solids vinyl sealer at (30-40$) will out last the above combo 4-1 at least, I bet.