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pickup switch slot
The slot for the pickup selector switch seemed like something
I'd be able to screw up pretty easily. The slot is supposed to be 1/16" wide, and 1 1/16" long. I found a 1/16" router bit on Amazon, but didn't trust my full-sized router on such a delicate slot, so broke down and bought a Ridgid laminate trimmer. I think this is a tool I'll be able to use a lot. I started with a test. I drilled a 1/16" hole in scrap, drew a line through it, and drew a second line parallel to the first. Then I put the bit (installed into the router into the hole, snugged some MDF against the router base, and clamped it, using the second line as a guide. Hope that gets the idea across. The test worked out fine, so I went for it on the real thing. The only problem is that I didn't drill the starter 1/16" hole directly on the line between the switch mounting holes. I don't think this will be a problem; the holes for the bolts can be adjusted slightly; the tops of the bolts will hide the issue. Here's the router bit I used: 1/16" cutting diameter and only 1/4" long. I guess at that diameter you can't go much longer. Here's the rout after minor clean-up. You can see it's slightly to one side of the line that bisects the bolt holes. |
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Looks great, straight as an arrow and really clean. Yeah I can see its a little offset, but the screw hole should give you some latitude. Otherwise cant beat how clean the slot looks. Its probably only off a 1/32nd or so anyway..
Regards, D. |
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Nice job , I didnt even think they made a 1/16 router bit , you are going to love that Ridgid Laminate Trimmer , I use mine more than I use my full size router , I put the square base on mine , gives a little more of a platform for it to work with , one of the best tools I ever bought.
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look good, you can always file the hole to make the screw centered on the line then countersink it so that the screw grabs at the right place +it will hide it well.
amazing build!
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fixing pickup cavity corners
I learned a lesson: don't do a build step that's not right
figuring you can fix it later -- especially if you aren't sure exactly how you'll fix it later. I routed my pickup cavities with a 1/2" diameter bit, knowing the corners of the pickup covers were tighter than that. It's been a struggle to figure out how to tighten the corners. There's no pickguard, so the edges of the pickup cavities have to look good. I got a 3/8" diameter straight router bit, and thought I'd use the jig idea suggested by volowv in post #79 above. Tested the idea on the MDF template, but it was hard to get the rout perfectly aligned with the existing cavity. And it has to be almost perfectly aligned -- even a tiny offset if very visible: On top of that, there are 8 corners to fix! I gave up on this approach. I was looking at a Jack Wells build thread the other day and was thinking that building a guitar is a matter of solving a serious of little problems. Jack's thread was great because he solved every problem in an elegant and sometimes ingenious way. That is Jack. Me -- after three days of thinking I still had no idea of how to solve this problem. Tonight I popped into the basement and thought: I've got steady hands; I'm just going to freehand this with my new laminate router!! Fortunately my senses returned right away. I then thought of using a small sanding drum on the Dremel tool, but since I don't have a routing base for it I thought I'd try the small sanding drum in the drill press. Tried this first on the MDF template, and it worked. The nice thing is that the rate of removing material is easy to control. So I went on to the real thing: I took it slow and easy, then did a little sanding by hand on the corners that still needed a little tightening. This pic doesn't show it well, but the end result was pretty good. (but next time I will use the right-sized bit to rout the cavities) |
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tummy cut finished
More or less finished on the back contour. Thought I
was pretty close after finishing with the rasp but I've spent 2-3 hours since then with sandpaper. Fun to take pictures of it: There's a tiny bit of touch-up 320 sanding to do on it, including the transition to the rounded edge. The thing I learned was that the "cut" should be kept perfectly straight until the final sanding where the edges are slightly softened. Originally the cut was "bulging" a little -- if that's clear -- making it hard to get a clean break from the back to the cut. Warm weather this Sunday and Monday; I might have yet be able to spray this body with lacquer before winter. What remains to be done before finishing: - top binding - wiring channels - jack hole - bridge holes, possibly including string-through holes The first two are doable. For the jack hole I don't know if I drill the same sized hole as I would for a tele. Anyone know? It's a football jack plate that I plan to use. The bridge holes are a problem since I don't have a bridge. I'm thinking of a hardtail bridge like the hipshot: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,...=Specs#details Stewart-MacDonald supplies dimensions for the bridge, but it would be risky to drill mounting holes, and especially string-through holes, without the bridge in hand. |
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wiring channels and output jack hole
Since this isn't really a tele I was wondering if there
might be any surprises in drilling the wiring channels. The two channels to the pickup cavities can be done just like a tele. Here the path for the channel to the neck cavity. The path for the channel to the bridge cavity is shorter and easier than for a tele: It's an 1/8" drill bit -- a Toshiba "black magic". Squeals a lot for black magic... Drilling for the jack hole was a bit different from a tele, where the jack is mounted to a flat surface. I'm planning to use a oval, or "football", jack plate like on an Electrajet. However, as this pic shows, there's no direct path to the cavity from about where the jack should be -- at least no path perpendicular to the tangent at the body edge. It seems the solution is to drill a jack hole first, then somehow drill a wiring channel between the jack hole and the control cavity. I made a jig to hold the body while drilling the jack hole. It was inspired by a clamping arrangement I saw in a Jack Wells build thread. The jig is just a piece of 1x10 screwed with a few screws into the end of a 2x4. I stuck a bit of felt on the bottom of the clamping surface. The drill press table is rotated so that it's not below the bit. The hole was better and the process less nerve-racking than in my past efforts. A 7/8" forstner bit was used. Now to somehow drill a wiring channel between the jack hole and control cavity. I couldn't see how to do this from the control cavity direction, so the plan was to drill through the side of the jack hole: ![]() The jig was especially handy here because there's no way I could have drilled through the side of another hole by hand. This last pic is a little unclear -- it's showing the hole to the control cavity from the side of the jack hole. I'm guessing the wire to the output jack isn't going to get in the way of the plugged-in cable tip. |
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binding glued
I'm not finding fun in binding.
I use superglue and occasionally a heat gun. Black binding especially seems to need heat around tight bends, else it crazes. But I find it hard to head the binding to just the right temperature with a heat gun. I also use blue masking tape, but it's just for insurance, because I don't stop pressing the binding with my thumbs until I've counted to 30 and the glue has set. Here's the body after gluing the binding. I only found one small oops. I tried to fix it once but it popped back out of place after I let go. I'll try again tomorrow. Here's the body with the tape removed. I'm not sure about whether black was the right choice. But hard to know before seeing the body with the black pickups, bridge, and other hardware. |
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Citizen_Insane and jkingma -- thanks for the kind words and
encouragement! There's a couple of small gaps in the binding. I've heard that you can fix these by using goop made from melting binding in acetone, but didn't know the details. I asked ievans for some help on this, and he suggested adding a little acetone to bits of binding in a jar. He said that the trick is to get the right thickness, because if the goop's too thick it will be hard to get into the gaps, and if it's too thin it can melt the binding. I'll give it a shot tonight. |
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Two days worth of progress to report, as last night I must've
forgotten to press the 'submit reply' button. Anyway, to finish up work on binding, I first quickly routed with a flush trim bit to remove any excess. Then I sanded all round the body edge with 220 and 320 grit to get the binding completely flush with the wood. Did a quick pass with 600 on the binding itself. Did a similar thing along the top edge of the binding. There are a couple of small gaps I'll try to fix with binding goop made from binding and acetone. Got the Hipshot bridge, so now I can place it and drill the mounting and string-through holes! I'm happy with the quality look and feel of the bridge. It's hefty. For placing the bridge position in one direction I measured 25.5" from the edge of the nut to the saddles. For the other direction I used strings from the E tuners, through the nut slots, towards the bridge. Once the bridge was in the right place I drew a light pencil line around it and inside the holes. Now on to drilling. I placed the bridge on the neck with a piece of double-sided tape, and drilled the string-through holes to about a 1/2" deep with a 1/8" brad point bit, using the bridge as a template. I think I used a 3/32" bit for the bridge mounting holes. The string-through holes are pretty straight! It's vital that these holes are straight, because the ferrule holes on the back of the body are drilled using the "registration pin" method. Here's the 1/8" pin on some MDF attached to the drill press table, and lined up with a 3/8" forstner bit. The body gets flipped over, and the pin put in the string-through holes, one after another. At each step, the ferrule hole is drilled. Since the top holes are aligned pretty well, so are the bottom ones: Then I went back to the front and drilled through with the 1/8" bit. Okay, all done with the bridge holes. Returning to the binding -- I put bits of the binding in acetone, and after 5 or 6 hours it turned to goop. I needed a very small putty knife to apply the goop to the gaps. Maybe a screwdriver? Hey! Who's been using my screwdriver as a putty knife? Was probably my wife or son, I'm thinking. Here's the goop. Seemed maybe a little too thing to use. ievans warned me that if it's too thin, it can wreck the glued-on binding. But the acetone is so volatile, the stuff seems to thicken really fast once out of the jar. So I applied some to the gaps. I also discovered another gap, but this seemed to call for wood filler. I used plastic wood because it dries really fast and doesn't seem to soak into the wood. After an hour or so I sanded the problem areas, gave the top a final sanding, and brushed on some Minwax sanding sealer. The veneer is starting to look really nice with some finish on it. It almost has an alabaster quality about it, which isn't really captured in this pic: ---- A couple of other things, for those not yet exhausted by the length of this post.. Today I also cut up some planks so I could glue them into blanks for use next year. That's poplar, basswood, and alder. No green in the poplar! The more exciting development is what came in the Stewart Macdonald box besides the Hipshot bridge: Excited about trying neck building for the first time! |
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Thanks for the nice feedback, guys, and welcome to
TDPRI, JD! I've brushed Minwax lacquer sanding sealer on the front and back, but it looks like it will be spring before it's sprayed with same tinted clear and then the clear coats. In the meantime, though, I've got a couple other guitars to finish, and I want to do at least one practice neck. |
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