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Tele-Afflicted
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CNC Staple build
Well...Back again for another build. After looking at that olympic white reliced beauty on the music zoo add,(It's gone now!...I'm so sad) I just had to make one similar....You know the one with the black binding front and back, rosewood fingerboard. Yummy!!!
Notice I said "similar"....Color, Fingerboard, and Binding is about the only thing! The body will be Korina left over from the flamed board I bought for my "girl guitars" There are blemishes on the left over boards so paint is needed to hide them, painting it white is no problem! The neck pickup will be an alnico staple that I designed after the Gibson "Alnico V" staple pickup by Seth Lover and used from 1952 to 56. One of the best pickups I have ever heard! Hands down!! So...Let's start with the pickup....Here is the design (pardon my reflection...these HD monitors are just too shiney) ![]() The bobbins are CNCed from polycarbonate sheet... ![]() After the top and bottom are machined they are solvent bonded together, cleaned and sanded. and you end up with this...
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The Magnets are cut from an Alnico V bar 3/8 by 1/8 by 6" long. I cut them on a diamond saw and surface grind them to .75 long. 6 of them (of course!)...
![]() ![]() I then drill a .05 hole in one end .08 down from the edge, on a lathe using a fixture so all are drilled exactly the same... ![]() A brass rectangle piece is cut and drilled on both ends, one hole .05...the other for a 2-56 tap. The brass part is pinned to the magnet using a brass pin. a .015 tin plated STEEL sheet is CNCed and bent on a fixture for the shield. Gibson shielded pickup wire is soldered in place...
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Tele-Afflicted
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The parts...
![]() The brass rectangular piece is missing...I forgot to take a picture of it! Finished pickup.... ![]() ![]() I'll machine a black cover for the one on this guitar!! The neck is a flamed maple rosewood veneer style neck (same as I made on my surf green guitar) Neck is roughed out on cnc...
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Tele-Afflicted
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Top of maple is shaped for the veneer...
![]() Veneer fingerboard is glued on... ![]() Here are two necks showing the veneer look. One with veneer finished, the other in process... ![]() ![]() This neck will get the "clay dot" look. I have to find out from Gil where he gets his "ivorine"!!.. ;-) The other (finished) neck is for a Paulownia build which is also going along parallel to this! Next week will be the body and binding. Just a note on the pickup design...Gibson used a brass shield and 1 1/8 long by .312 by 1/8 magnets for the alnico v Seth pickup. They also grounded the magnets with a small wire soldered from mag to mag. The springs contacted only the bobbin. I'm using a tin plated steel shield and 3/4 long by 3/8 by 1/8 magnets on mine. The springs on mine contact the shield which ground the mags to the shield. I've tried both the brass and steel shield. I settled on the steel! The shield, because it is magnetic, alters the magnetic field...I think for the better. At least to my untrained ear..;-) Cheers all! ED |
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hemlock, NY
Age: 56
Posts: 1,586
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Ed...you are the man.... I love the engineering you put into these things. I have all the resources to wind a pickup, I just haven't taken the leap. What wattage iron or gun is needed to solder through the varnish in order to avoid sanding it off and breaking the conductor?
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Tele-Afflicted
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Thanks guys....It's always fun to do these build threads....more fun then just building!
Hey Nick...On March 17th go have a....ummm....I forget what beer you drink...I remember it AIN"T FOSTERS!! Anyhow, have one on me! ![]() Guitarbuilder....It depends on the coating of your wire...Varnish, enamel, and poly all melt around 155C...so no problem with those. Any good iron will blast through that. I have never had a problem. I do use high temp solder though, so grab yourself some of that. I use stuff leftover from my old Singer Sewing Machine Co. days (long time ago... Just a quick word on pickups... I love to experiment with a plethora of designs and wierd configurations. I have wound many a humbucker, but still come back to my favorites the single coils!! I have settled on three designs and three different magnet types. Alnico 5, alnico 8, and neodymium (YES! neodymium...but only after I do a secret heat treatment on them) I will put together a thread for the "just pickup forum" in the future to explain all my experiments and findings. I'll wet your whistle with a few pics... my group of three...toroidal (neo), fixed rectangle (A8) and my favorite, the staple (A5)
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Queensland, Australia
Age: 38
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Are those neo magnets tubular?
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Tele-Afflicted
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Thanks all....
Yes Nick , they are tubular! ![]() ![]() ![]() The thing about neos is that they are just to darn STRONG!! The only way to "turn them down" is with heat. But the range in temp that they go from full to zero is VERY small. We have a small electric furnace that is very accurate (+-5c) The trick was to find the time and temp to get the strength you want. I also found a source for the 5-40 fillister head screws...7+ bucks for old stock nickel plated steel bag of 100! I bought 5 bags...enough for my needs!HERE Pale ale sounds good!! A nice ESB! Cheers ED |
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Tele-Afflicted
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Body design....
![]() I'm going to have get an anti-glare cover!!! Or just convert the screen image to jpeg and post! Cut out the pick guard... ![]() 1/16 Garolite XX was used. This will get a Lacquer coat (or two!) Next week the body will be cut...until then Cheers ED |
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I tested it with the pickguard design. Here you go.... ![]() Body... ![]() Thanks again Zatar! Thanks guys...Robpvd...If they have cnc, go for it! |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Elizabethtown, KY
Age: 32
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Respect Mr H!
I need files!! What CAD and CAM files are you using? I'm getting ready to start cutting my DIY cnc this weekend.
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I use Mastercam and solidworks for all my designs and CAM, but I can convert to just about anything you need. Just let me know. Will an attachment reach you ok? I saw your post about the pics not showing. Cheers Ed |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Elizabethtown, KY
Age: 32
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That's only when I'm on the govt network.
Im learning ACAD10. What's a good compatible CAM for that? Really cheap or Free if possible. Thanks Ed
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Well, the top of the body is cut. Tomorrow I will make a fixture that will accuratly locate the body to cut the back binding ledge and the furrel cbores.
Korina blank fly cut to 1.75 ![]() 1/4 cutter set to 1" above top... ![]() Start of cutting... ![]() Finished Cutting top half...
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Tele-Afflicted
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The neck is coming along. Nice fit to the body...
![]() Seems almost a sin to paint this but, like I said in the first post, this blank is made from leftover flamed Korina that I use for some of my other guitars. There are various flaws in the wood that won't look good with a clear finish so, white paint here we come!! I'm going to order the black binding and my "small thin" frets (I'm going to do the "fretless wonder" treatment on this neck) tonight! Next will be the back side cut. Thanks all Cheers ED |
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My friend, you never cease to amaze me!
Thanks for the inspiration! Cheers
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