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Old December 9th, 2009, 01:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"snakehead" headstock dimensions

i have decided to put a snakehead headstock on my next build.
did a little searching, tried to copy it from pics but when i set it on top of a neck and look at it from across the shop, they just don't look right.
so i figured i would ask the experts!
width at top, width at the widest point, length from nut to the top should do it.
however, if anyone happens to know the radius of the blend from the nut to the widest point, that would be fantastic.
thanks guys.

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Old December 9th, 2009, 09:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Member Groovyrecords owns a Custom Shop Snakehead Esquire. Perhaps he can supply those dimensions. If you get them, please post them here.
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Old December 9th, 2009, 11:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I just had someone contact me about building him a few Snakehead necks. He says he has a PDF of the neck. If he shares that with me, I will get the measurements for you. It should be a pretty straight forward build.

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Old December 9th, 2009, 11:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry mine is in storage with the Amp in the cases.

I moved back to NYC and apt space is at a minimum.

Best I can do is send you a seyt of pictures look in your email
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Old December 9th, 2009, 11:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I just had someone contact me about building him a few Snakehead necks. He says he has a PDF of the neck. If he shares that with me, I will get the measurements for you. It should be a pretty straight forward build.

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Joe,that was me, and I got a small PDF of JWells.......LOL !!!

the File is a tracing with tuners holes......and shape.....I'm thinking maybe just a paddle and I can do the headstock myself....Fret markers I can handle too...Would that be doable ?



I'll get that to ya.......Jeffro.

Joe gots pics. and his stuff looks killa !!!
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Old December 9th, 2009, 11:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Joe,that was me, and I got a small PDF of JWells.......LOL !!!

the File is a tracing with tuners holes......and shape.....I'm thinking maybe just a paddle and I can do the headstock myself....Fret markers I can handle too...Would that be doable ?



I'll get that to ya.......Jeffro.

Joe gots pics. and his stuff looks killa !!!
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Did you get the two emails I sent you the other day with the Snakehead ?
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Old December 9th, 2009, 11:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Joe,that was me, and I got a small PDF of JWells.......LOL !!!

the File is a tracing with tuners holes......and shape.....I'm thinking maybe just a paddle and I can do the headstock myself....Fret markers I can handle too...Would that be doable ?



I'll get that to ya.......Jeffro.

Joe gots pics. and his stuff looks killa !!!
Yo Jeff,

Sure thing. If I make a template, the headstock is a no brainer and I can cut it as part of the process. I have several guys that have me just make the neck without installing frets or dots. So that is no problem and will save you some money too.

I fire you back another email.

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Old December 9th, 2009, 11:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks Joe.......Again, good stuff.
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Old December 9th, 2009, 03:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i have decided to put a snakehead headstock on my next build.
did a little searching, tried to copy it from pics but when i set it on top of a neck and look at it from across the shop, they just don't look right.
so i figured i would ask the experts!
width at top, width at the widest point, length from nut to the top should do it.
however, if anyone happens to know the radius of the blend from the nut to the widest point, that would be fantastic.
thanks guys.

1 7/8 at the top and 2 5/8 at the bottom. Nut width is standard. 4 7/8" from the narrowest part to the widest part. Then there is a flare into the nut.

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Old December 9th, 2009, 04:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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When I built mine I tried all avenues to get the correct measurement. These included attempts to contact Fred Stuart who took measurements from the original prototype, contacting a TDPRI member who had a relative in the Fender Custom Shop and contacting retailers in the UK who had Custom Shop replicas listed on eBay. None of these attempts were fruitful.

I ended up using my best estimates based on photographs and vintage style lap steel tuners I had in hand. The following pictures were found on the Internet and are of the first replica built by Fred Stuart when he was with the Custom Shop.

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My Snakehead neck began as a Warmoth Paddle Head ordered without fretboard markers. I cut the headstock shape with the radial saw.

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Old December 9th, 2009, 04:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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JWells When I saw your photo in the guitar case thread I thought it was one of the anniversary repro prototypes, you do beautiful work, Really identical down to the bushings.

I emailed a set of photos to a few members, for the rest here are a few more







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Groovey and Jack .....You guys came through on this for me.

Chi-Town Joe, I can't thanks him enough.

I'll tweak it somewhat.....but......Oh well,I've said way too much.

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The template PDF I sent to Southern Ill Electrics was only for the tuner hole spacing which is critical if you're building a prototype replica using lap steel tuners since the tuners are installed without bushings. Anyone building one should make a drilling template and make sure the tuners fit the template before drilling the headstock.
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I dunno if it can help you guys, but there is a Snakehead replica, signed by George Fullerton, across the room from Nancy at the Fullerton Museum. You can see it from inches away, but its behind glass.
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I'm not building a replica....Just wanted the vibe....Vintage style tuners for me.
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I dunno if it can help you guys, but there is a Snakehead replica, signed by George Fullerton, across the room from Nancy at the Fullerton Museum. You can see it from inches away, but its behind glass.
That is the Guitar used to recreate The 50th anniversary, I was told by John Page it is not a replica but one of the Original 48/49 Prototypes.

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I could almost swear it was mentioned to be a CS replica, and I really hope George would not apply a blue sharpie marker to such an important guitar.

I've been thinking about making another visit, I live just down the freeway.
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There was only one original Snakehead prototype built. The second prototype had 6 on a side tuners.
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You know, after thinking about it for awhile, I think I remember also hearing that the protoype was on display there for a time, then after it was taken off display they put up the replica.

Again, I could be wrong.
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Thank you guys too. I have made a cardboard template using Jack/Jeffro's PDF. I then used vintage strip tuners to mark the holes. I think it looks right. Won't realy know until I make a wood template.
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