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The Baritone Tele Build
I was in the studio a while back when the producer said "play something low". I instantly identified with his mindset. Thoughts of Glen Campbell's "Wichita Lineman" came to mind. We recorded my Tele solo and he dropped it in pitch by an octave with one of those fancy computer plug-ins. He added vibrato and coolness emerged. I was driving home and thought to myself...Why don't I have a Baritone Tele? What have I been thinking? I have many guitars to bring variety to a recording project, but never a baritone.
I went to Warmoth website and ordered the BTN232. ![]() It's a 28-5/8" scale maple neck with a rosewood fingerboard. It appears now, Warmoth only has the BTN254 as a rosewood (non-birdseye) offering. I planned on the body color to be something i don't already have. Can you believe I don't have a RED Tele? I didn't want to put the time and effort into finishing a body, so I bought a MIM Candy Apple Red body off eBait. ![]()
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The first item is the nut. I measured the nut slot thickness.
HI RES But I found the treble side to be larger. HI RES I was puzzled but that. How could it be made that way and why? So I continued to mess with the nut. Here is the nut width. HI RES
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The Stewmac 10" radius shaped White Bone Nut is perfect. I have already cut it to length here.
HI RES I checked the radius. It doesn't rock and there is no light visible in under the nut. HI RES
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I sand the nut on sandpaper laid on a flat surface. I measure and check fit the nut in the slot after a bit of sanding.
HI RES It turns out, the treble side being larger allows the nut to slide in from the treble side and be very tight on the bass side. Please let me know if any of you think Warmoth did this as a feature. HI RES
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I use a carpenter's pencil refill lead to mark a reference line on the nut. I file a diagonal so the line drawn will be the same height as the frets.
HI RES HI RES HI RES This gives me an idea as to how high to trim the top of the nut and file the slots.
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Some of you may have seen my TDPRI article "Going Nuts Over Nuts". I use an Excel spreadsheet to calculate centerlines of string spacing for nuts so a scaled page can be printed. This template is glued to the top of the nut with Elmers glue. It gives sharp precise lines to start the nut slots. Here is the template applied.
HI RES The slotting begins with the Stewmac 0.010" fret file. HI RES
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This is a hhgmmmm (speaking in a baritone voice) great project Terry
I had a chance to play a Baritone National last summer. It just stood out proud in the mix. You'll be loaded for bear when this project gets done. I'm with you |
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Terry!
Don't leave us hanging! That is a fine neck. I once upon a time found an Allparts maple-boarded baritone neck.
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Here is the decal paper. I sprayed 4 coats of acrylic (Krylon Clear Coat), starting with very light mist coats.
HI RES The decal applied. HI RES
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Thanks Bucko. After dealing with finish on frets in maple and doing refrets, I drifted away for the maple fingerboards that I love the looks of so much.
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The neck with the rosewood fingerboard masked for shooting the clear coats.
HI RES Here is the headstock with about 30 coats of polyurethane applied. HI RES
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The poly has dried for a week and I wet sanded the face of the headstock to reduce the decal outline by a mil or so.
HI RES 5 additional coats are added and allowed to dry for a week.
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HelveticaNeue LT 67 MdCn 24 points and expanded by 1.4 points. No kerning. The Downs part is: Fender Font Fill is Red = 204 Green = 153 Blue=0 Outline = black 1.5pt Height = 0.49" Width = 1.66" Fill transparency = 0%
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There is lots of work to do on shielding. Here is the control cavity shielded with self adhesive copper tape. Notice thin strips connect the cavity shielding to spots where the control plate screws mount.
HI RES
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Here's how I shield the jack hole. Curl some of the copper tape into a form with a smaller radius than the jack hole and insert it into the hole.
HI RES Here's how it looks inside the cavity. HI RES Outside the jack hole HI RES Using a screwdriver to conform the tape to the radius of the hole. HI RES
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If that is a standard Tele body, does the bridge work out at the right distance from the nut for a baritone neck?
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Yes. The neck dimensions take care of that. Good question. Believe me, I researched that before I got started. It would be terrible to have bridge that would become "out of range".
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