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Old October 21st, 2009, 08:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Strummerized Esquier (Finished guitar)

No buildpic's this time.
It sure helped not to overrush things, still i have to do the bottom part of the pickguard with nicotine.
Just could not wait to show off some pic's of the final.
This be my backup guitar...

More detailed pic's and story later on...





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More on this and how it got to be a long project-guitar, later on...
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Old October 21st, 2009, 05:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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that is nice olaf enjoy
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Old October 21st, 2009, 06:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old October 21st, 2009, 06:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's a nice one!

Good job mate!
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Old October 21st, 2009, 07:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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still i have to do the bottom part of the pickguard with nicotine.

Beautiful guitar! But nicotine? Thats just gross! I seriously think the bottom looks better than the top. Looks like it was played by a cigar roller who never washed his hands!

Very nice Esquire.
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I like everything but the pickguard. Hopefully when you apply more nicotine, you even it out. It looks a little blotchy at the moment. That said, I think the body and neck look awesome!
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Beautiful guitar! But nicotine? Thats just gross! I seriously think the bottom looks better than the top. Looks like it was played by a cigar roller who never washed his hands!

Very nice Esquire.
I can see how that would gross you out, it being nicotine and all.
However it is not through cigarettes that it was applied.
Furthermore, anything you do to discolour a guard heavily will rubb off with sweat.
Stain, shoepolish, dirt, it will not adhere, not even when you scuff the guard dull.
Nicotine (the jar variety, thanks to a chemist friend) however will go into the plastic and stay there.
I will do the bottom part too and then take down a the whole guard so it evens out and the blotchyness dissappears.

Believe me it's the only way!

Furthermore the back of the neck sort of looks funny to me, as the vinyl sealer i used on the back of the neck is showing as a layer between the amber tint lacquer and the dirtied up bare wood.
There is a shellac sealer to cover the bare wood and keep it from sucking up moisture from the air.
As all woodworkers know, if you paint a pice of wood on just one side, it will eventually turn into a hoola-hoop

The body of this guitar is 1¾" as the oldies and made out of Featherweight swampash (sorry preeb) 1.8 kilo (3.6 pound)
I used a template with no router hump and no flatspot as per the very early ones.

All the hardware is aged through chemical treatments apart from the bridge wich is the notorious REBELRELIC aged bridge from HARPJIM's chorme removal topic....
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 05:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Nice project Olaf - I fancy that! - wouldnt mind finishing off your project for you if you get suddenly bored ;)

Something I wondered (regards 'yelowing / aging plastic parts) -
I have noticed that when I order take-away Indian food i.e. 'Curry' that there is some golden yellow spice - or, I fear some kind of colouring agent, that will stain plastic almost immediately, and pretty much permanantly.

Takes a huge amount of work to remove - if 'ever'.
Theres many a 'formica' kitchen worktop in the land with an eternal curry stain or two!

Now, that agent - if identified - could work very very well.
It could be Tumeric?
It could be ... that rather noxious looking red food colouring powder I have seen in big tubs at my local Indian Supermarket.

Or you could just treat the parts in a take-away chicken tikka masalla ;)

But I am half serious - this agent- whatever it be - will stain / yellow white plastic material 'permanently' - for sure, and possibly look quite natural.

(and to think the Nicotine grossed some folks out .. ;) )
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Are you sure it's nicotine you're using to stain your pick guard? I seem to remember from the wonderful BBC TV programme QI, that nicotine is actually a colourless, non-staining substance. The yellow staining associated with nicotine is actually caused by the tar in cigarettes.

Good work, by-the-way. Nice guitar.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 08:19 AM   #11 (permalink)
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What circuit did you put in that one Olaf?
Traditional Esquire with dark bassy front position, or 'cocked wah' front position?
Or is there a stealth pup under the 'guard maybe?

Just wondering, as I have a long-term Esquire project on the slo-go.

(one might think an Esquire style, and a Toploader to boot, might be a relatively quicker project .. but .. I'm runnin' slow;) )
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What circuit did you put in that one Olaf?
Traditional Esquire with dark bassy front position, or 'cocked wah' front position?
Or is there a stealth pup under the 'guard maybe?

Just wondering, as I have a long-term Esquire project on the slo-go.

(one might think an Esquire style, and a Toploader to boot, might be a relatively quicker project .. but .. I'm runnin' slow;) )
Neh i'm totally done with that dark circuit from the early ones... we have bassguitars nowaday'[s so it's obsolete.
I put in 0.01 mfd NOS paper in oil in the tone circuit of all my guitars that i build.
That way you can roll off a tiny portion of high end from the pickup without it becoming useless.
Furthermore, on esquiers i wire the switch such... bridge with vol+ tone control/bridge with only volume/ bridge straight to jack

that be it, no ghost pickups they kill tone IMHO


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Are you sure it's nicotine you're using to stain your pick guard? I seem to remember from the wonderful BBC TV programme QI, that nicotine is actually a colourless, non-staining substance. The yellow staining associated with nicotine is actually caused by the tar in cigarettes.

Good work, by-the-way. Nice guitar.


It's actually tar (you are right...made a typo there..) ...you buy it from a german relic supplier called monster... (you have to be his buddy)

It's evaporated on a grid of foil with a bunsenburner...
I tried cigarettes before but it takes too much time and they stink up the house...

I might try and leave a guard in the local coffeshops airco-unti for a few day'[s see what that does ;o)





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Nice project Olaf - I fancy that! - wouldnt mind finishing off your project for you if you get suddenly bored ;)

Something I wondered (regards 'yelowing / aging plastic parts) -
I have noticed that when I order take-away Indian food i.e. 'Curry' that there is some golden yellow spice - or, I fear some kind of colouring agent, that will stain plastic almost immediately, and pretty much permanantly.

Takes a huge amount of work to remove - if 'ever'.
Theres many a 'formica' kitchen worktop in the land with an eternal curry stain or two!

Now, that agent - if identified - could work very very well.
It could be Tumeric?
It could be ... that rather noxious looking red food colouring powder I have seen in big tubs at my local Indian Supermarket.

Or you could just treat the parts in a take-away chicken tikka masalla ;)

But I am half serious - this agent- whatever it be - will stain / yellow white plastic material 'permanently' - for sure, and possibly look quite natural.

(and to think the Nicotine grossed some folks out .. ;) )

Followers of my builds know i've dabbled in the past with Curry and coffe powder...
It works well (as in it colours plastic yellow) but the colour is all wrong...


Funny to see there's actually no-one the least bit interested how the ragged finish got about....

Would it help if i tell you's guy's that it is actual fiësta red on black on red on black on red on black on red (yes! that many coats yes!) and then scuffed down and brushed with a steel wire brush...

would it help even more that it is real guitar nitro?
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Holy-cow! Thats an heck of an old guitar you have there my friend!!
Buried it in your garden for a couple of weeks/months/years??

{serious mode on} Nice one Olaf! You can also buy stockholmerteer(woodtar) if there is a shipyard nearby. But it smmmellssss a little. You even can make it yourself, it aint that hard.

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I might try and leave a guard in the local coffeshops airco-unti for a few day'[s see what that does ;o)
Now , theres a thing .. a pickguard aged in Dutch Coffee Shop fumes
Thats gotta have sooome Mojo!
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Holy-cow! Thats an heck of an old guitar you have there my friend!!
Buried it in your garden for a couple of weeks/months/years??

{serious mode on} Nice one Olaf! You can also buy stockholmerteer(woodtar) if there is a shipyard nearby. But it smmmellssss a little. You even can make it yourself, it aint that hard.

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(btw if you need that templ just drop a line and its on your doorstep in the blink of an eye with our friends from tnt)
Wazzzzuuuuuuuppp!!

Neh! i shot a very wet coat of (nitro) red and blackbursted it, then i shot some more red an blackbursted it...repeated that process for 4 times.
When dry, i brushed it with a steel wire brush and scuffed it with sandpaper until i got the desired effect.
Plan was to get it like we made those wax-crayon drawings in kindergarten with the black on top that you could scratch the outlines of the drawing in with a nail/sateh-pin remember.
The effect was the strummer-like effect.

On the neck i've taken off the gloss with steelwool and sanded the back...
To get the wearmarks on the front, i used a q-tip with paintstripper and smeared that in lines under the strings on the fretboard... when dry it scraped off.
It left marks that was white so it had to be artificially áged' with grime and dirt.
I sealed up the bare patches with Rustin shellac sanding sealer afterward...

THere is actual dirt from the backyard in there, but also ashes/kids paint/bycicle chain grease/hoover dust/kiwi brown shoepolish/beeswax/carnauba wax/ etc etc...
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So as you can see i ltook down some of the blotchiness off the tarstains on the pickguard... the yellow has gotten in the plastic very deep... i could wipe the guard with spirts and it took off the darker brown blotches.

It works for me this way... the guitar is a absolute screamer a banshee on roid's

Love this thing... a worthy second to my pine tele.

All there's left to do is to file some shallow slots into the barrels to prevent stringslippage and detuning from it.

Otherwise this thing is perfect the way it is.

It's 1¾" body behaves very well compared to thicker swampash i have... also with 2.7 kilo's on the old bathroom scale this be the lightest guitar i have.
Even lighter then mu Yellowpine telecaster (sorry t-style guitar)


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UPDATE: guitar sold in under 15 minutes... (after placing the advertisement)


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UPDATE: guitar sold in under 15 minutes... (after placing the advertisement)


Yay!
Sold! How could you do that to one of your child!!? A so beautiful baby!

Seriously, congrats! Did you use TDPRI classifieds?
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Sold! How could you do that to one of your child!!? A so beautiful baby!

Seriously, congrats! Did you use TDPRI classifieds?
Yeah i get attached to these things too, but over time i have learned to part with themm again as well.
I build one per week or so on average, so i get a fair amount of practice.
Fifteen minutes is however a personal record.

Did not use the classifieds, if i had TDPRI would have gotten a donation...
I used www.marktplaats.nl a dutch private vendor site.

Same site where i bought my Super reverb for €1150.- just last week.

Times are hard, hence the happy upon the quick sale!!!


On to the next build/mod, the Pine telecaster is getting a strat pickup in the middle... guess it's getting Nashvilled.
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Fantastic paint, Olaf! I like that one a lot. On to the next one, huh?
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Nice job. How did you remove the headstock logo? Did you strip the entire then restain & finsh?
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Nice job. How did you remove the headstock logo? Did you strip the entire then restain & finsh?

No stupid, i built the whole guitar!

Doh!
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No stupid, i built the whole guitar!

Doh!
Good job! Is there a building thread here at TDPRI? I think I missed that...

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Why do you use Joe's name ?

What is the connection?

I know he had a white Tele

A Burst Tele painted flat black

but I don't think he ever had a Black and Red Tele like that

Why you using the Joe Strummer name
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