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Old February 23rd, 2012, 07:40 AM   #141 (permalink)
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I'm just putting a spring on each pivot bolt, and attaching it to the base, just to get some down-preasure.

You said in an earlier post, that the pucks are basically a cut at the 1. and 12. fret, with 1" added to the outline. Why the 12. fret and not the upper fret (16 or 17) where the routing stops?

I guess it'll be clearer when I actually use the jig for the first time, but I'm having some problems with understanding the relationship between the wanted neck shape, and the shape of the pucks.

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Old February 23rd, 2012, 07:44 AM   #142 (permalink)
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Most neck specs will list thicknesses at 1st and 12th frets.
I took the neck taper past the heel and headstock then added the extra ofset to get it up high enough for rotation. So the neck shape was carried past the heel getying larger of course and the same for the nut end which got smaller. Does that make sence.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 07:50 AM   #143 (permalink)
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yes, that makes sense! Thanks.

I assumed that adding 1" would alter the radius of the neck, but the neck is still located the same distance from the pivot point, so the neck radius will still be correct after adding the 1" for rotation..
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 07:53 AM   #144 (permalink)
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When adding the extra 1" you following the neck shape. So as you move out it becomes less accute. So for example a hard v will start to look like a medium v but where the bit hits it will be correct.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 08:52 AM   #145 (permalink)
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Thanks again! This forum is so valuable for us semi-beginners! I've made a couple of guitarars before, but never had any jigs. I had to set up router guides for every process, using more time on the setup than the actual guitar building!
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:00 PM   #146 (permalink)
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The be honest, using a jig to shape the back of a neck is kind of overkill. The time that it takes to shape a neck by hand is nothing compared to the time involved in building the jig, setting it up, making test cuts, recalibrating, more test cuts then finally running the neck.

For me, one of the most relaxing and enjoyable parts of guitar building is shaping the neck. Just a spokeshave, cabinet scraper, some sandpaper and your fingertips to tell you what to do.

Also if you plan on getting better at making neck then using the jig is circumventing some of the important lessons you need to go through in order to get better. I'm not trying to put down anyone who chooses to use a jig like that. Just saying there is a lot to be learned by shaping a neck by hand. And in the end it is faster.

I agree, in my actual first build, shaping the back of the neck and the transitions, was the most creative and also very enjoyable, because it was the least mechanical and jig-dependant step.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:03 PM   #147 (permalink)
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I agree, in my actual first build, shaping the back of the neck and the transitions, was the most creative and also very enjoyable, because it was the least mechanical and jig-dependant step.
Hey, but isn't that jig meant for creating the compound radius fretboard
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:15 PM   #148 (permalink)
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Hey, but isn't that jig meant for creating the compound radius fretboard
No,

I think that would be this jig,
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:19 PM   #149 (permalink)
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You're right, I confused these two
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:32 PM   #150 (permalink)
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Well for me I have a neck done in 10 minutes including setup. I do the transitions by hand so I do so on hands work too. I do more than just one neck a month mind you. The jig is greatiys how I want to build.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 04:49 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Well for me I have a neck done in 10 minutes including setup. I do the transitions by hand so I do so on hands work too. I do more than just one neck a month mind you. The jig is greatiys how I want to build.
It's how I want to build them as well.
Even though I don't see myself making more than a couple of necks each year at this point I'll still use my copy of the jig.

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Old February 23rd, 2012, 05:05 PM   #152 (permalink)
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Had a go with Bills Neck Jig. Happy with the result. Going to make a few different pucks and run more tests.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 05:48 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Hust so you guys are aware. I niw use this setup for fingerboard radius work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRxcg...e_gdata_player
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 05:51 PM   #154 (permalink)
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I made Bill's neck-shaping jig pretty much exactly according to his plan.

I found it hard to get the puck dimensions just right, so
produced this web app to help:

http://users.wowway.com/~gbruns/neckjig.html
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 06:00 PM   #155 (permalink)
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Hust so you guys are aware. I niw use this setup for fingerboard radius work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRxcg...e_gdata_player
Put down the bottle Bill
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 06:01 PM   #156 (permalink)
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Is it that obvious.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 09:42 PM   #157 (permalink)
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I made Bill's neck-shaping jig pretty much exactly according to his plan.

I found it hard to get the puck dimensions just right, so
produced this web app to help:

http://users.wowway.com/~gbruns/neckjig.html
Awesome work Glenn! That is extremely useful.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 10:46 PM   #158 (permalink)
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Is it that obvious.
The slurred typing kind of gave it away.
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Old February 24th, 2012, 06:09 AM   #159 (permalink)
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Nice jig! I think I'm going to make this jig:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI4Zt27cfhw

It's a bit easier than the sanding jig, although your result will probably be alot smoother!
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Old February 24th, 2012, 06:13 AM   #160 (permalink)
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I made Bill's neck-shaping jig pretty much exactly according to his plan.

I found it hard to get the puck dimensions just right, so
produced this web app to help:

http://users.wowway.com/~gbruns/neckjig.html
Great!

One question: The length of the jig affects the sise of the pucks, right? Will the se pucks work if I made the jig according to Bill's plans only? I did make it the same size, I'm just asking because I'm curious if I understand how the puck-theory works.

Let's say I made the jig twice as long, the nut puck would have to be much smaller, and the heel puck would have to be larger..right?

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