Make it up as I go along build thread - Page 2

mgdesigns · August 27th, 2009, 11:21 AM

How about the old-style Firebird sidewinder pickups? They were narrow, and had a very unique sound by virtue of the way the magnets faced 90 degrees to the strings (Just what I've heard, have not researched to confirm that as fact). I just always thought they sounded so different, and kind of thin nasally, but not quite quacky sound. The one I've posted is actually a Gibson Thunderbird Bass Pickup, but you get the drift.

I wonder if you could take a dual coil humbucker apart and re-orient the coils as shown? MMMMM?

Quarterpounder · August 27th, 2009, 12:48 PM

I'm loving this one!! So nice to see a unique hand drawn body shape come to life. It reminds me a little of the Wolf played by Jerry Garcia.

Scatter Lee · August 27th, 2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by teleblues001

Wow! Gone a few days and come back and fin me a new SAcatter Lee build thread, YAY!

Scatter Lee, looking good so far. I'm looking at your off-the-cuff design there and thinking it would make a pretty hot looking bass as well. Any plans in the future for a Scatter Lee Bass build?

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I think it would make a nice bass too, maybe someday

Scatter Lee · August 27th, 2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by telechaser

Cool build. However, on the pickup side of things, if you don't put the Tele pickup routes (bridge at least) then there wouldn't be any Tele component in it anymore. If you put hums or P90s then it'll look like a PRS. Nothing wrong with that, if that's what you want in the end.

just having fun with this one anyway, maybe it will get some Tele knobs

Scatter Lee · August 27th, 2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quarterpounder

I'm loving this one!! So nice to see a unique hand drawn body shape come to life. It reminds me a little of the Wolf played by Jerry Garcia.

always loved Jerrys Guitars

Scatter Lee · August 27th, 2009, 10:01 PM

started today on the headstock, put a 10 degree angle on the top and thinned down some Maple to 5/8"

got it lined up and clamped

drew up a headstock design, little bit of Les Paul, little bit Tele,, with a horn on top

Scatter Lee · August 27th, 2009, 10:11 PM

Then while the neck was setting up I did a little more belt sanding on the body. Added a couple more bevels on the top

did some on the back side

trying to get some curves going on

Scatter Lee · August 27th, 2009, 10:17 PM

put the neck in the router jig

got it nice and straight

drew on the headstock, will wait till tomorrow to make the template and route it out

had some time to play with a gator

Fernder · August 28th, 2009, 02:19 AM

What's that gator got in his mouth?

bobthecanadian · August 28th, 2009, 03:26 AM

It looks like a frog... or something like it.

scubadoo · August 28th, 2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Scatter Lee

well after thinking about pickup routes looks like this one will just have one pickup at the bridge, if I route for the neck I'll cut right thru the joint, doh!

so I guess the joint on the next one will be about an 1 1/4" deep. I have a few humbuckers but think I'll try to hunt down a nice P90 and go Jr. style

You could always glue a block onto the heel and rout the tenon pocket deeper if you wanted a neck pickup.

Great to see another build from you, i like how you approach things.

Can i ask how you cut the angle for the headstock join? bandsaw?

Also, did you work out the neck angle based on the bridge height and top contour or are the fingerboard and top of body effectively flat like on a tele? Does that make sense?

I'm enjoying this one as I'm working on a set neck soon.

Cheers
Dave

Citizen_Insane · August 28th, 2009, 09:55 AM

Love the curve in that body. Very organic looking.

Scatter Lee · August 28th, 2009, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fernder

What's that gator got in his mouth?

thats just a weed that was floating around in the water

Scatter Lee · August 28th, 2009, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scubadoo

You could always glue a block onto the heel and rout the tenon pocket deeper if you wanted a neck pickup.

Great to see another build from you, i like how you approach things.

Can i ask how you cut the angle for the headstock join? bandsaw?

Also, did you work out the neck angle based on the bridge height and top contour or are the fingerboard and top of body effectively flat like on a tele? Does that make sense?

I'm enjoying this one as I'm working on a set neck soon.

Cheers
Dave

I cut the angle with a router from the side, did not have my miter saw handy, I'll make a hinged box jig to do this easyer one of these days

the neck is flat with the body like a tele, the headstock angle was just made up so the guitar would lay flat and not rest on the end and make it easy to do truss rod adjustments

Scatter Lee · August 28th, 2009, 01:54 PM

today I started by doing a rough cut on the headstock

made a template to make a template

then routed it out on the router table

mounted it on the neck with carpet tape and a couple nails where the tuner holes will be

storyboards27 · August 28th, 2009, 01:59 PM

Diggin' that headstock, man. Can't wait to see how this one's gonna turn out. Keep up the good work!

Scatter Lee · August 28th, 2009, 02:00 PM

used the hand router to get it shaped, then marked the tuner holes with my ice pick

done shaped

so I guess the truss rod is next,

jay1970 · August 28th, 2009, 02:46 PM

Fantastic, loving this thread.

Scatter Lee · August 28th, 2009, 03:20 PM

off to the belt sander, I think this matches the body a little better

newtwanger · August 28th, 2009, 03:34 PM

Very sweet build. I'm tasting a little "heavy metal" in the sculpting, and I like it.

mgdesigns · August 28th, 2009, 03:40 PM

Sweeeeet headstock design, ScatterLee. Nice coordination.

crussell · August 28th, 2009, 06:55 PM

I'm really diggin this one! The headstock/neck carving looks like a spear or something...

irishtele · August 28th, 2009, 07:28 PM

Looks good!
Subscribed! :P

Scatter Lee · August 28th, 2009, 09:38 PM

routing for truss rod, I got one of them two way straight ones,
Made a sliding bracket for the router to use on my multi purpose neck jig

glued and screwed, ready to use

even had the right size bit

that was eazy and right on the money

Scatter Lee · August 28th, 2009, 09:45 PM

got that baby in

have to go thru my wood and find something for a fret board, I think I have some Honduran rosewood or maybe some flame Maple

teleblues001 · August 28th, 2009, 10:38 PM

That headstock is awesome. Looks like a Bowie knife.

Shoved BassVIII · August 29th, 2009, 03:50 AM

Totally diggin it

Parma_TeleMon · August 29th, 2009, 08:03 AM

I've been wondering what you've been up to!! Another outstanding thread, my friend!

Groovin' on the rhino horn headstock, too.

Scatter Lee · August 29th, 2009, 09:45 PM

today cut a piece of flame Maple for the finger board/ fret board, whatever you call it

hard to see now but it's real flamey

clamped to the max

now wait for that glue to dry, rock on

guitarminator · August 29th, 2009, 09:49 PM

Could we get a little background on this gantry planer setup? The router sits on 2- 3/4" pine boards and slides on the PVC?

Scatter Lee · August 29th, 2009, 09:51 PM

unclamped and on to the router table

got the sides trimmed up real nice

Scatter Lee · August 29th, 2009, 09:59 PM

back to the router /planer to thin the neck a little, it will be about an inch thick and and I'll probably taper off a little toward the nut

will give the fretboard a 12" radius next and then start grinding the back

Scatter Lee · August 29th, 2009, 10:03 PM

this guy hung around all day, my one legged friend

Slow Reflexes · August 29th, 2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarminator

Could we get a little background on this gantry planer setup? The router sits on 2- 3/4" pine boards and slides on the PVC?

Here's the setup...

ScatterLee's planer

That whole thread is just a wealth of information for the project-inclined cheapskate. I mean that in a good way.

Scatter Lee · August 29th, 2009, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarminator

Could we get a little background on this gantry planer setup? The router sits on 2- 3/4" pine boards and slides on the PVC?

thats basicly it, real simple

guitarminator · August 29th, 2009, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scatter Lee

thats basicly it, real simple

Mr Scatter, you indeed are very talented. I work all week with Engineers who design DSP chips and they are scary smart. You sir would fit right in, no swamp wildlife allowed however. We here in New England don't play well with swamp wildlife.

I think I will use 4 plastic 4' levels that should work for me.
THANKS !

Scatter Lee · August 29th, 2009, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarminator

Mr Scatter, you indeed are very talented. I work all week with Engineers who design DSP chips and they are scary smart. You sir would fit right in, no swamp wildlife allowed however. We here in New England don't play well with swamp wildlife.

I think I will use 4 plastic 4' levels that should work for me.
THANKS !

thanks, levels sound like a good idea

Scatter Lee · August 30th, 2009, 09:37 PM

put the neck in the jig for a radius today

12"

the sanding block

Scatter Lee · August 30th, 2009, 09:45 PM

block sanded from 100 to 1000 grit

then brushed on a coat of nitro

used my template to mark some knob holes, I put in three, not sure why

drilled all the way thru

Scatter Lee · August 30th, 2009, 09:53 PM

nice squared up block of wood makes a great drill guide

then drilled the back, left 1/4" thickness where the pot shafts go thru

then routed the holes into one

then did a little freehand routing for the cover, no templates here

August 27th, 2009, 10:01 PM	#46 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	started today on the headstock, put a 10 degree angle on the top and thinned down some Maple to 5/8" got it lined up and clamped drew up a headstock design, little bit of Les Paul, little bit Tele,, with a horn on top __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 27th, 2009, 10:11 PM	#47 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	Then while the neck was setting up I did a little more belt sanding on the body. Added a couple more bevels on the top did some on the back side trying to get some curves going on __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 27th, 2009, 10:17 PM	#48 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	put the neck in the router jig got it nice and straight drew on the headstock, will wait till tomorrow to make the template and route it out had some time to play with a gator __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 28th, 2009, 03:26 AM	#50 (permalink)
bobthecanadian Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: EDMONTON, Alberta... yes, in CANADA Age: 43 Posts: 1,777	It looks like a frog... or something like it. __________________ It don't mean a thang if it ain't got that TWANG!!!

August 28th, 2009, 01:54 PM	#55 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	today I started by doing a rough cut on the headstock made a template to make a template then routed it out on the router table mounted it on the neck with carpet tape and a couple nails where the tuner holes will be __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby Last edited by Scatter Lee; August 28th, 2009 at 09:46 PM..

August 28th, 2009, 02:19 AM	#49 (permalink)
Fernder TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego Age: 30 Posts: 76	What's that gator got in his mouth?

August 28th, 2009, 09:55 AM	#52 (permalink)
Citizen_Insane Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Iowa Age: 23 Posts: 156	Love the curve in that body. Very organic looking.

August 28th, 2009, 01:59 PM	#56 (permalink)
storyboards27 Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2009 Location: Marietta, Georgia Age: 25 Posts: 128	Diggin' that headstock, man. Can't wait to see how this one's gonna turn out. Keep up the good work! __________________ Gibson got me in the game, Fender kept me playin'

August 28th, 2009, 02:00 PM	#57 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	used the hand router to get it shaped, then marked the tuner holes with my ice pick done shaped so I guess the truss rod is next, __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 28th, 2009, 02:46 PM	#58 (permalink)
jay1970 Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bradford-United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 199	Fantastic, loving this thread.

August 28th, 2009, 03:20 PM	#59 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	off to the belt sander, I think this matches the body a little better __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 28th, 2009, 03:34 PM	#60 (permalink)
newtwanger Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 45 Posts: 1,672 11 Photos	Very sweet build. I'm tasting a little "heavy metal" in the sculpting, and I like it.

August 28th, 2009, 03:40 PM	#61 (permalink)
mgdesigns Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Franklin, TN Age: 57 Posts: 657 4 Photos	Sweeeeet headstock design, ScatterLee. Nice coordination.

August 28th, 2009, 06:55 PM	#62 (permalink)
crussell Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Age: 36 Posts: 136	I'm really diggin this one! The headstock/neck carving looks like a spear or something... __________________ -Chris "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil." ~ Jerry Garcia

August 28th, 2009, 07:28 PM	#63 (permalink)
irishtele Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 320	Looks good! Subscribed! :P

August 28th, 2009, 09:38 PM	#64 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	routing for truss rod, I got one of them two way straight ones, Made a sliding bracket for the router to use on my multi purpose neck jig glued and screwed, ready to use even had the right size bit that was eazy and right on the money __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 28th, 2009, 09:45 PM	#65 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	got that baby in have to go thru my wood and find something for a fret board, I think I have some Honduran rosewood or maybe some flame Maple __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 28th, 2009, 10:38 PM	#66 (permalink)
teleblues001 Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 125	That headstock is awesome. Looks like a Bowie knife.

August 29th, 2009, 03:50 AM	#67 (permalink)
Shoved BassVIII Tele-Holic Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lima Ohio Age: 27 Posts: 645	Totally diggin it

August 29th, 2009, 08:03 AM	#68 (permalink)
Parma_TeleMon Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Deep in the heart of Parma, oh Age: 49 Posts: 1,196	I've been wondering what you've been up to!! Another outstanding thread, my friend! Groovin' on the rhino horn headstock, too. __________________ ================================ Packin' a Tele, lookin' fer trouble.... ================================

August 29th, 2009, 09:45 PM	#69 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	today cut a piece of flame Maple for the finger board/ fret board, whatever you call it hard to see now but it's real flamey clamped to the max now wait for that glue to dry, rock on __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 29th, 2009, 09:49 PM	#70 (permalink)
guitarminator TDPRI Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: warwick RI Age: 49 Posts: 98	Could we get a little background on this gantry planer setup? The router sits on 2- 3/4" pine boards and slides on the PVC?

August 29th, 2009, 09:51 PM	#71 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	unclamped and on to the router table got the sides trimmed up real nice __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 29th, 2009, 09:59 PM	#72 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	back to the router /planer to thin the neck a little, it will be about an inch thick and and I'll probably taper off a little toward the nut will give the fretboard a 12" radius next and then start grinding the back __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 29th, 2009, 10:03 PM	#73 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	this guy hung around all day, my one legged friend __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

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August 30th, 2009, 09:37 PM	#78 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	put the neck in the jig for a radius today 12" the sanding block __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 30th, 2009, 09:45 PM	#79 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	block sanded from 100 to 1000 grit then brushed on a coat of nitro used my template to mark some knob holes, I put in three, not sure why drilled all the way thru __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

August 30th, 2009, 09:53 PM	#80 (permalink)
Scatter Lee Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ina-gadda-da-vida, florida Age: 51 Posts: 701	nice squared up block of wood makes a great drill guide then drilled the back, left 1/4" thickness where the pot shafts go thru then routed the holes into one then did a little freehand routing for the cover, no templates here __________________ www.myspace.com/shanesby

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