WARNING-Build like you have never seen before-May be offensive to some

[tristanavakian]

It reminds me of an acoustic guitar Taylor made in the early 90's out of an oak pallet from their loading dock. It had nail heads in the top and everything.

It was not for production, they were just showing off. I had a play of it at a NAMM show. It sounded great. It just goes to show -it's not what you got, but what you do with it. Absolutely amazing.

[martyb1]

Give this a quick sanding before I carry on with more clear




It's obvious that the top on this is never going to have a glass smooth finish.Mind you,the divots give it a nice relic look

[Buckocaster51]

Originally Posted by martyb1

It's obvious that the top on this is never going to have a glass smooth finish.

What?!

Just pour on more goop!

Is your snow finally gone?

[CDR!]

I wanted to contribute as well throw my two cents into this monster post.

I see a traditional (aged) tone plate but with cigarette liter buttons from a ford or chevy...

I don't know, might not work a pick n pull might have them.

o wait yer in the rural area, oh my bad.

never mind ....

keep going.

I always wanted to have a Zebrawood body and a Birdseye neck Guitar (Tele)
wonder what it would sound like, weight wise too.

Chic Disc Rico

[alexpigment]

i think the front of the guitar looks unique... i'd have to see it fully assembled. the back, on the other hand, is gorgeous. I don't think I've ever seen vertical stripes like that on a sunburst. Anyway, good work

[BarryE]

any updates?

[johnnylaw]

Intrigued. But I'm still more of ans ash man myself.

Looks like a horse race between imagination and skill. Nice work, and thanks for sharing.

[charlie chitlin]

I vote for the door from a fuse box/ breaker box for the pick guard.
Maybe pegboard.
Asphalt shingle?

[emailhot]

hey marty, will the old yellow and black Alberta license plates work as a pick guard? maybe it could fit kinda like a thinline guard? maybe something like this one. http://www.yanktanks.co.uk/plates/albertajhk871.jpg

[martyb1]

Hmmmmm
I can start to see why OSB is not used for building guitars
We seem to have run into a problem
I'm not sure if it is all the wet weather we have been having or what.This thing was nice and flat to start with.Maybe it has been all the re-finishing this poor thing has went through,not sure.
We seem to have developed a cup in the body.



Like I said I am unsure what made it do this..I am sure I could put a neck on it and it would be playable.The center seems flat still,just the wings have seemed to "Fly south"
Kind of a let down.Maybe I should park my truck on it for a couple days
I am still going to finish it.Even if it just gets used as conversation piece.The neck pocket is still nice and flat.

Ironically,the other one that is all OSB,except for the ash strip is still as flat as a pancake.Mind you it was sealed with lots of lacquer before the wet weather hit

[51mike]

Just say it was "Carved" that way!

HAHA

[SatelliteOrders]

Originally Posted by 51mike

Just say it was "Carved" that way!

HAHA

+1

"I meant to do that." -- Pee Wee Herman

[telefunk]

Originally Posted by 51mike

Just say it was "Carved" that way!

HAHA

ARCHTOP cool ..

[robt57]

Just be happy it isn't a concave movement. Is the OSB actually thicker in the middle now? Are you sure the back did not warp and take the OSB with it? To me this is more likely, the back piece shrinking and cupping and the OSB just followed...

Did you throw the straight edge across the back ??


I can just see it now...

Q: "How is the action on that Tele?"
A: "Depends on humidity..."

Q: why do you only play slide when it's raining ??
A: ppfffftt....



Have you considered a dual micro tilt setup??

[martyb1]

Originally Posted by robt57

Just be happy it isn't a concave movement. Is the OSB actually thicker in the middle now? Are you sure the back did not warp and take the OSB with it? To me this is more likely, the back piece shrinking and cupping and the OSB just followed...

Did you throw the straight edge across the back ??

The whole thing has cupped.I can't see the back moving as it is 75+ years old,but,maybe there was enough moisture in the OSB it took some on.Hard to say.I bit disappointing after all the work I have put into this thing.Like I said,I'm sure it can still be used,just not flat any more.

[robt57]

Originally Posted by martyb1

The whole thing has cupped.I can't see the back moving as it is 75+ years old,but,maybe there was enough moisture in the OSB it took some on.Hard to say.I bit disappointing after all the work I have put into this thing.Like I said,I'm sure it can still be used,just not flat any more.

The back surface shrunk and the distance shortened. Which is what I suspected. So you think it is possible the OSB sponged dampness and the real wood absorbed it and swelled in the middle, or that the outer surface of the back shrunk ??

[martyb1]

Originally Posted by robt57

The back surface shrunk and the distance shortened. Which is what I suspected. So you think it is possible the OSB sponged dampness and the real wood absorbed it and swelled in the middle, or that the outer surface of the back shrunk ??

It's really hard to say but probably.The back now has a concave.
Like I said,the one that is made entirely of OSB is still nice and flat

[robt57]

Originally Posted by martyb1

It's really hard to say but probably.The back now has a concave.
Like I said,the one that is made entirely of OSB is still nice and flat

Well, being in waterproofing I can tell you EVERYthing is a sponge, just to what degree is the question

Either the back has shortened from shrinkage, or the front lengthened from expansion OR BOTH!

Did you have it sitting face down somewhere by chance [like on something that holds moisture more than you considered]

I find myself wondering if your top sponge did not absorb moisture into the routes. Did you seal the routes ??

Sit it on the concrete back side down, and when the cup reverses seal the routes!!! maybe she will stay.

Or sit it out in the sun OSB side up and see if the cup flattens. Then seal every possible face on the front!!!

[martyb1]

As many coats that are on this it should be sealed.It really erks me it cupped.It might get the belt sander treatment

[Buckocaster51]

A similar thing happened to me once on a D-18 style acoustic I put together and finished with a water-based lacquer.

I don't understand it completely, but it seems reasonable to me that when we put a water-based finish on a guitar, at least some of the water will be absorbed by the wood.

Sometimes we even aggravate the problem by putting lots of coats on real fast...figuring that if the surface is dry, everything must be dry.

But like I said, I don't have a complete handle on what is going on.

[CSS]

My Wife just rushed me a paper bag to breath into. Ahhh, much better but the image is still there.

[shoretyus]

Originally Posted by Buckocaster51

Sometimes we even aggravate the problem by putting lots of coats on real fast...figuring that if the surface is dry, everything must be dry.

But like I said, I don't have a complete handle on what is going on.

You were wrong once. Then you found out that you were wrong

[Mack]

Work faster!!!

I so want to see this thing in its final state!!!

Brilliant... I want one.

Mak.

[reddogbass]

OSB grows. I've seen a lot of OSB which started life at 7/16" end up an extra 1/8 or more in thickness. Unfortunately, after the expansion it never returns to it's original thickness.

[Stevil]

I'm hoping this hasn't been scrapped. I think the carved top look would be cool...regardless of how it came about

[JeffsJeep04]

This thread inspired me to sign up for the TDPRI.


This build shows you it's not what you build with, but building with what you have that separates the men from the boys. Anyone can make a USACG body look decent....but a piece of OBS? WOW!

[martyb1]

Originally Posted by Stevil

I'm hoping this hasn't been scrapped. I think the carved top look would be cool...regardless of how it came about

I had full intentions of taking the belt sander after it and leveling it out but decided against it.I will finish it,put a neck on it and see how it plays.If it turns out to play ok I will leave it,if not it will get the sander.
Kinda ruins my plans for it.I had contacted Paul and was going to donate to TDPRI because of all the interest and kind words.I'm not sure I would feel right donating it now,being the way it is

[JeffsJeep04]

Originally Posted by martyb1

I had full intentions of taking the belt sander after it and leveling it out but decided against it.I will finish it,put a neck on it and see how it plays.If it turns out to play ok I will leave it,if not it will get the sander.
Kinda ruins my plans for it.I had contacted Paul and was going to donate to TDPRI because of all the interest and kind words.I'm not sure I would feel right donating it now,being the way it is

You can feel right and donate it to me :D

[ccrnnr9]

I don't care what anyone says...that is one of the coolest tele bodies I have seen! I wish I had one if for nothing else than looks. I think someone said it already but its like the tele version of the EVH strat.
~Nick

[JamesVRoy]

I think its pretty damn cool!

[robt57]

Originally Posted by martyb1

I had full intentions of taking the belt sander after it and leveling it out but decided against it.I will finish it,put a neck on it and see how it plays.If it turns out to play ok I will leave it,if not it will get the sander.
Kinda ruins my plans for it.I had contacted Paul and was going to donate to TDPRI because of all the interest and kind words.I'm not sure I would feel right donating it now,being the way it is

Marty, I know you are disappointed, at least I get that strong impression. But if I may just say the following.

The effort and the 'Music' of your thread/build pinnacles the best portion of the true spirit of this forum from my seat. You are applauded and I am unanimous in that. ;) As are a whole lot of others I'd bet!

Please do not leave the wake of inspiration in limbo. That wood is only the smallest part of the phenomena that is you Bro!!!

If not for the Bucks, Arlos, You, Rons, etc, a lot of folks would never get the chance to feel&taste the excitement of the creation. Major Cudos!!


But I am curious, did you try the wood manipulating suggestions I made? I mean regarding the route sealing and sun or damp concrete etc ??


Ciao, Robt

[martyb1]

Thanks for the kind words guys.Just another reason this is such a great place.Rob,I did try a few things but it seems to have found it's place.Like I said,it's not real bad,just disappointing after all the work I put into it.I am sure it will be playable.
If you guys want,I will still donate it to Paul and he can set something up.I just don't want anyone to be disappointed when they receive it. I would not feel right not giving you guys the chance to make the decision because along with this body comes the tone block and neck plate that Vince(Taipan) donated and a Tex-Tone bridge pickup that Dave (dallmon) has donated.I sure I have a Fender bridge here I can include.What you think?

[w0odman]

I think it would be an awesome opportunity for a donation/giveaway thing. I know I wouldn't mind giving some money to the board for a chance to win it.

[robt57]

I made 3 bodies about 90 days ago. I let them sit [excuse for procrastinating] for a good while after so I an see what mother nature has in mind.


As far as what I think, I think it is all good! ;)

[outbreak]

i can understand why you will be dissapointed but if it still plays fine the warpage just adds character imo

[SatelliteOrders]

I thought of the perfect pickguard material for this.

I was working with the metronome, trying to match a blogger's speed on a certain lick. I had my metronome up to 250, while she said she topped out at 178. And yet it didn't seem fast. Then I reread it. She was doing 16th notes while the metronome was doing 8th notes. So really, I was doing 125.

That's when it hit me. The perfect pickguard for this.

[JasonRobert]

Maybe the solution for this if someone makes another is a thinner top of OSB, like a veneer top and some binding... with the OSB and the main wood sealed before it is glued on.

[gibsonjunkie]

How about immersing the body in a container filled with poly for a couple days to let it really soak in?

[Southpaw Tele]

Originally Posted by pchilson

Well, if you decide to tile it you will have a good underlayment...

Pergo! It's easier to install and it's darn near fireproof.

[martyb1]

Funny this thread popped back up.While I had the planer running the other day,I took the belt sander,knocked off the high spots and we are now level




It is now sealed once again