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Old February 24th, 2008, 11:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The Gearbox software that came with my Line 6 Toneport UX1 usb interface has a half-speed button for audio playback. It works great, but it's not adjustable. I also use a Tascam Guitar Trainer CD unit when I'm traveling. That also slows down the audio feed, but the quality is choppy. It works fine though. In each case, it's a big help when trying to figure out the guitar part. It sounds as though the Amazing Slow Downer software is even better, but the $49 puts it halfway (or better) to the cost of the Tascam and almost halfway to the UX1. That Line 6 Toneport UX1 is a great piece of gear and the best money I've ever spent on guitar related gear.

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Old February 24th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So, if you can get it to match a pitch, can you slow it down, then match the pitch to standard if the original song is tuned flat? Can you slow down a Buck Owens song that would be in Eb, and then raise the pitch to E for the playback?
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Old February 24th, 2008, 11:52 PM   #23 (permalink)
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If you have Windows Media you really don't need it. Go to the main page and right click on Now Playing. Go down the menu and click on enhancements and then go to speed settings.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 11:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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If you have Windows Media you really don't need it. Go to the main page and right click on Now Playing. Go down the menu and click on enhancements and then go to speed settings.
That's what I tried to say , but I was naughty
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Old February 25th, 2008, 12:03 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Flat and Gary,

I disagree significantly with you both.

If you've used both you'd never ever tell someone that you don't need ASD if you have WMP... unless you don't actually try to use it to learn or transcribe difficult passages.. then maybe if you did it once you'd "oh yeah, it will slow stuff down."

I've watched my brother work on stuff and it wouldn't matter what quality of tool he used.... they are all hammers.

as for the the recommendation to use a toneport or the tascam unit... what the heck?

Pat, yep. the FULL version allows for a whole bunch of really handy tricks without pixilation.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 12:07 AM   #26 (permalink)
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So, if you can get it to match a pitch, can you slow it down, then match the pitch to standard if the original song is tuned flat? Can you slow down a Buck Owens song that would be in Eb, and then raise the pitch to E for the playback?
Still talking about ASD, not the Windows Media Player? If the ASD, the answer is yes. You can change speed up and down in increments of about 3%. You can change pitch independently in increments of 1 cent. There are 100 cents to a semitone and 1200 cents to an octave. This means that you can do what you ask: correct the tuning which is flat by raising it up, say, 10 or 15 cents. Then from there, raise it up a semitone from Eb to E. The pitch control has coarse and fine degrees of adjustment.

I'd like to emphasize that the quality of this is superior to some of the the more expensive plugins that I've used for computer music. Not perfect, but much better than most.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 12:14 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I use the WMP with XP, also my Sony cd/dvd player has the same but better sound quality feature that I can use for cd's or my fave, concert dvd's, so I can see what they're playing at slow speed as well as hear without changing pitch and it will A-B loop passages, very useful.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 12:18 AM   #28 (permalink)
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So, if you can get it to match a pitch, can you slow it down, then match the pitch to standard if the original song is tuned flat? Can you slow down a Buck Owens song that would be in Eb, and then raise the pitch to E for the playback?
Yes..absolutely...the pitch adjustment and the playback speed are completely independent...total flexibility with no loss in quality. I'm telling you guys this s/w has the transcriptions problems SOLVED... to the point that you can move on and obsess about some other guitar related thing...What a relief!
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Old February 25th, 2008, 07:13 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I've been using Transcribe from http://www.seventhstring.com/for a couple of years now. It has some features that I use all the time, such as clicking and dragging over a section of music and looping it. You can even speed up the track if you want to practice it at a quicker tempo.You can also insert stop points and label them for future use. For example, in a song that features a number of soloists you can "tag" each solo with a name and jump right to it when you open the file. You can also insert beat, measure, and section marks and label them with chord names to make it easier to follow the changes. If a recording is a little off key or the players tuned down, you can adjust the pitch to your liking. These are just a few features. You can also download videos to it.

I have a 56k line and it downloaded very quickly.

I don't know how this compares, but a friend of mine who uses Slow Downer and really likes it says it does not feature this kind of versatility.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 07:41 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Before you spend any $$$, try this...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/bestpractice/

Works great!

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Old February 25th, 2008, 07:45 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Flat and Gary,

I disagree significantly with you both.

If you've used both you'd never ever tell someone that you don't need ASD if you have WMP... unless you don't actually try to use it to learn or transcribe difficult passages.. then maybe if you did it once you'd "oh yeah, it will slow stuff down."

I've watched my brother work on stuff and it wouldn't matter what quality of tool he used.... they are all hammers.

as for the the recommendation to use a toneport or the tascam unit... what the heck?

Pat, yep. the FULL version allows for a whole bunch of really handy tricks without pixilation.
My windows player goes to 11

Lol Getbent , we know it's not as good , we are simply saying it will slow down your music should you need to do so , which is helpful if you don't have the software .
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Old February 25th, 2008, 08:24 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Before you spend any $$$, try this...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/bestpractice/

Works great!

Cheers,

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Not bad for free...the GUI is sort a knock off of ASD. I just tried it and is
a)way more choppy in slow down mode
b) lacks the range of how much it can be slowed down
c) the pitch adjustment is more coarse...not enough fine detail to the adjustment.

It's an open source program which means it is supported and maintained by programmers in their spare time for fun or learning. It has a long way to get to the stage of devleopment and quality of ASD.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 08:49 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Well, as soon as I return from a roaddtrip to Phoenix next week, I'm buying the ASD. I must say, someone mentioned the Windows thing awhile back...I found it on my computer (as I said, I'm not too sharp with computers) and have played CD's on it. I went to the enhancement menu and the option to change the speed was there.....just not operable (version 10 I think). I went to the site to download the latest, and the window said it would take over two hours to download(dial up). Forget that!

I remember working out the guitar parts on "Hello Trouble" from Desert Rose Band (John Jogenson) many years ago....man would the ASD have made that easier!! Thanks you all. I still can't believe the wealth of information here!
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Old February 25th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I, too, use Transcribe! (The exclamation point is in the name.) I tried both it and ASD, and liked Transcribe! better. In addition to the features that jazzbender mentioned, there is a cool keyboard function that you can use to find notes if you're having trouble.

There are several programs that will do this stuff - Transcribe!, ASD, Slow Gold, I think something called Transkriber, etc. You should try different ones and see which one you like best. IIRC, when I downloaded trial versions of Transcribe! and ASD, the Transcribe! version was fully-functioning, whereas the ASD version was a crippled version that would work only on the first track on a CD or something like that.

With Transcribe! you do have to first copy the file to your hard drive and convert it to a Transcribe! file, but you do that once and then you can use the file forever.
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Interesting....I'll have to look into that too! Thanks California!
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I'm New here & would like some tabs if possible.

Hey Kids,

Anyone has anyone transcribed any of Brad Paisely's music...Hey Mr. Policeman, Ticks, Instrumentals? etc.

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Anyone has anyone transcribed any of Brad Paisely's music...Hey Mr. Policeman, Ticks, Instrumentals? etc.

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Hi btlnckr and welcome m8 .

You will porobably be better starting a seperate thread for the tabs you speak of , and entitle them so that it is clear which artists tabs you need .
There are many guys here who may be able to help you out if you do just that .
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With Transcribe! you do have to first copy the file to your hard drive and convert it to a Transcribe! file, but you do that once and then you can use the file forever.
For me that was a major disadvantage (when I looked at other slow downers)....ASD is way more convenient in that regard...it requires no ripping whatsoever for any sound file or CD track.
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