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mal paso · August 6th, 2012, 01:00 PM

Ok, I'm having some trouble here. Is this E Modal, or the Bruce Palmer Modal?

Or is that the same thing?

Some sites online say this tuning is EEEEBE and/or EBEEBE..

(I'm obviously not too well versed in alternate tunings, although I do love me some Open G)

Anyway, I'd like to try it out, and I was wondering if anyone here played in this tuning and could offer suggestions as to good online sources for getting started, chord info, etc.

Don Miller · August 6th, 2012, 02:30 PM

Learn "Suite Judy Blue Eyes"

mal paso · August 6th, 2012, 03:40 PM

Thanks Don! I really dig CSN(and Y), and that was one of the reasons I wanted to try it out

jbmando · August 6th, 2012, 03:51 PM

"Jumpin' Jack Flash" is tuned like this but somewhat flat. Not exactly Eb, but lower than E. All tunings are modal in some way - the major scale is the Ionian mode, after all. People tend to use "modal" to indicate ambiguity between minor and major. This is simply E5 tuning.

mal paso · August 6th, 2012, 03:54 PM

Thanks JB!

Maybe I'll have better luck googling E5 tuning

jbmando · August 6th, 2012, 04:07 PM

Well, I think the CSN&Y tuning is called E modal. Guitar players tend to come up with their own terminology. Even that is a form of E5 tuning.

historicus146 · August 6th, 2012, 07:57 PM

and if you finger pick...

4 + 20 by Stills

mal paso · August 7th, 2012, 10:22 PM

Nobody here does this?

C'mon Ken, I figured you'd have some good advice!

jbmando · August 7th, 2012, 10:41 PM

mal, do you really find it odd that no one here plays out of this tuning? I only ever heard of one guy using it - Keith Richards, and only one using EEEEBE - Stephen Stills. Kind of a waste of a guitar to keep it tuned like this for two songs, it seems to me.

Justjammin · August 7th, 2012, 11:04 PM

I have a spare acoustic tuned to GAGDAD, this tuning also works with 4+20, suite judy blue eyes, kinda fun for noodling

Seasicksailor · August 8th, 2012, 06:01 AM

"Power E tuning" TM ... that's the official name from now on! :-D

noby · August 8th, 2012, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mal paso

Nobody here does this?

I do occasionally tune to both EEEEBE and EBEEBE. No idea what they're called though.
When I do , it's more for a My Bloody Valentine sound rather than CSN. A couple of their songs (To Here Knows When for example) are based on this tuning so I usually just mess around with the chord shapes for them. You get plenty of droning notes going on.

To get the correct sound you have to gaze at your shoes too.

limbe · August 8th, 2012, 08:34 AM

I think it´s referred to as "Open E5 Tuning" in some guitar magazines.The tune "Carry On" from CSNYs album Deja Vu has the same tuning,only tuned down a half step.In some transcriptions "Love the One You´re With" is notated in Open C5 Tuning.

mal paso · August 8th, 2012, 10:54 AM

Hey Noby thanks! I'm going for the MBV thing too, but I didn't think that would get any responses

JB, yeah, I do find it odd. There are 80,000+ members here, all different playing styles and techniques. I didn't think this tuning was that unusual, but maybe it is

Thanks for your help everybody

weelie · August 16th, 2012, 02:21 PM

aerosmith - no more no more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-3KQ...eature=related

August 6th, 2012, 01:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
mal paso Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 36 Posts: 3,644	EBEEBE tuning Ok, I'm having some trouble here. Is this E Modal, or the Bruce Palmer Modal? Or is that the same thing? Some sites online say this tuning is EEEEBE and/or EBEEBE.. (I'm obviously not too well versed in alternate tunings, although I do love me some Open G) Anyway, I'd like to try it out, and I was wondering if anyone here played in this tuning and could offer suggestions as to good online sources for getting started, chord info, etc.

August 6th, 2012, 03:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
jbmando Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA Posts: 3,731	"Jumpin' Jack Flash" is tuned like this but somewhat flat. Not exactly Eb, but lower than E. All tunings are modal in some way - the major scale is the Ionian mode, after all. People tend to use "modal" to indicate ambiguity between minor and major. This is simply E5 tuning. __________________ "Theory only seems like rocket science when you don't know it. Once you understand it, it's more like plumbing!"~John McGann There is no "A" anywhere in Lynyrd Skynyrd. It's S Q U I E R! Not Squire. Look at your guitar!

August 6th, 2012, 04:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
jbmando Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA Posts: 3,731	Well, I think the CSN&Y tuning is called E modal. Guitar players tend to come up with their own terminology. Even that is a form of E5 tuning. __________________ "Theory only seems like rocket science when you don't know it. Once you understand it, it's more like plumbing!"~John McGann There is no "A" anywhere in Lynyrd Skynyrd. It's S Q U I E R! Not Squire. Look at your guitar!

August 7th, 2012, 10:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
jbmando Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA Posts: 3,731	mal, do you really find it odd that no one here plays out of this tuning? I only ever heard of one guy using it - Keith Richards, and only one using EEEEBE - Stephen Stills. Kind of a waste of a guitar to keep it tuned like this for two songs, it seems to me. __________________ "Theory only seems like rocket science when you don't know it. Once you understand it, it's more like plumbing!"~John McGann There is no "A" anywhere in Lynyrd Skynyrd. It's S Q U I E R! Not Squire. Look at your guitar!

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August 6th, 2012, 02:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
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August 6th, 2012, 03:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
mal paso Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 36 Posts: 3,644	Thanks Don! I really dig CSN(and Y), and that was one of the reasons I wanted to try it out

August 6th, 2012, 03:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
mal paso Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 36 Posts: 3,644	Thanks JB! Maybe I'll have better luck googling E5 tuning

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historicus146 Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: chicago area Posts: 541	and if you finger pick... 4 + 20 by Stills

August 7th, 2012, 10:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
mal paso Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 36 Posts: 3,644	Nobody here does this? C'mon Ken, I figured you'd have some good advice!

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Justjammin Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central Calif Coast Posts: 164	I have a spare acoustic tuned to GAGDAD, this tuning also works with 4+20, suite judy blue eyes, kinda fun for noodling

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limbe Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm,Sweden Age: 61 Posts: 1,221	I think it´s referred to as "Open E5 Tuning" in some guitar magazines.The tune "Carry On" from CSNYs album Deja Vu has the same tuning,only tuned down a half step.In some transcriptions "Love the One You´re With" is notated in Open C5 Tuning.

August 8th, 2012, 10:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
mal paso Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 36 Posts: 3,644	Hey Noby thanks! I'm going for the MBV thing too, but I didn't think that would get any responses JB, yeah, I do find it odd. There are 80,000+ members here, all different playing styles and techniques. I didn't think this tuning was that unusual, but maybe it is Thanks for your help everybody

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weelie Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland, Yer-up Age: 39 Posts: 2,123 12 Photos	aerosmith - no more no more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-3KQ...eature=related __________________ <- I don't need smileys, I'm smiling already.

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