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Old July 13th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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1. Crate Amps with G and/or XL on the panel.
2. The inability to twist knobs.
3. Alcohol.
4. Excessive Volume.
5. Cargo Shorts.

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Old July 13th, 2012, 07:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I can only think of one, the operator. The rest add character.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 07:39 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old July 13th, 2012, 07:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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5. reading internet forums
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1. not playing

ok, now back to one of the above ; )
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Old July 13th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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2: using multi-effects boxes
I'm going to take issue with this one. I think I'd change it to using too many effects at once. I like multi-effects boxes, especially for W/D/W setups.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 07:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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1. Crate Amps with G and/or XL on the panel.
2. The inability to twist knobs.
3. Alcohol.
4. Excessive Volume.
5. Cargo Shorts.
+1 on #1, unless you want to sound like James Hetfield, who ironically has the best tone in Metallica.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Where you place your amp. Sometimes raising it off the floor can make a world of difference--or vice versa. I do either depending on the acoustics of the room we're playing in.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 08:03 PM   #28 (permalink)
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The number one reason for tone suck is not knowing what to do with what you have, then going onto Musician's Friend thinking you can buy it.
Some great advice right there!
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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Bought a new pedal board, but nothing seems to be helping my tone!
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Old July 14th, 2012, 05:57 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Old July 14th, 2012, 06:33 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I don't use a lot of pedals.

To me, tone is about the solidity of the instrument and particularly of the strings in connection to it, and v little else. So, starting from the small end, you need:

decent stringing job
solid nut
good neck/body join
solid bridge with saddles that aren't rattling about.
+1...wow, i like that!
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Old July 14th, 2012, 06:37 AM   #32 (permalink)
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where's DELETE in this joint?
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Old July 14th, 2012, 06:38 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Bought a new pedal board, but nothing seems to be helping my tone!
you need the new, but already rare, Boss Flux (Dilithium [not Germanium]) Stabilizer pedal.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 10:36 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Page, Santana, Hendrix. Yeah they have awful tone.


I was hoping to irritate more than one person.

I may switching to .009 in the not too distant future.

I guess a bad set up/nut can cause problems as well as technique, but otherwise it's pretty subjective.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 12:30 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I was hoping to irritate more than one person.

I may switching to .009 in the not too distant future.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 01:49 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Yeah, this really qualifies. What they may call woman tone, I often call mud.

Leo got it right with the single coils and it's the reason I put in a push pull pot into my guitar with humbuckers. I can see why Jimmy Page opted for the push pull pots. If I had to I can work with humbuckers, but single coils have that x-factor that's hard to put a finger on. And within the world of single coil equipped guitars, the tele has something that often only tele lovers can truly enjoy. I can hear players tell me all day that the tele is ugly, or limited, or anmeic, but then that's one less player competing for a tele. We are kind of like Mac owners or Miata owners or Krispy Kreme eaters which is loyal on a level few can understand. Those are the three most famous brands, but us tele players have everything those folks have.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 03:26 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I have no beef with humbuckers either really. Although I think they sound better more on the clean side like though a Bandmaster than a Marshall. Here's a surf type thing using a Les Paul. http://snd.sc/LReZbU
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Old July 14th, 2012, 03:40 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I agree that guitar set-up and technique are huge factors in tone, but I've seen people with pro set-ups and great technique completely suck because of a few issues. In no particular order...

Constant strumming on electric guitar. see also: not letting the electric rhythms breathe
Not sound checking- see also: any kind of stage volume war
Corroded strings OR brand new strings are equally bad for tone and tuning
Tense sobriety OR sloppy intoxication
Overuse of ANY effects pedal, especially wah, phaser, flanger, and tremolo
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Old July 14th, 2012, 05:29 PM   #39 (permalink)
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1 my lack of playing ability
2 my lack of playing ability
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Old July 14th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #40 (permalink)
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How 'bout a room with bad acoustics. Some places you just won't sound good no matter what you do.
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