The Number 1 Fender Telecaster Guitar authority in the world.
fender telecaster electric guitar discussion forum
Make a donation with PayPal Telecaster Guitars at Ebay

Supporting Vendors
Wilde Pickups by Bill & Becky Lawrence WD Music Products Amplified Parts Mod Kits DIY Amps, Mods, Pedals dallenpickups.com Tommy Guitars Warmoth.com
advertise on the tdpri 


   

Go Back   Telecaster Guitar Forum > Other Discussion Forums > Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique
Forgot Username/Password? Join Us!

Notices

Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique Formerly "Suger Free Tab & Music 101." Look for and post TAB, talk about playing technique or music theory. Nuts and bolts of playing music... not gear.

Forum Jump


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old June 18th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
TDPRI Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: poland
Posts: 12
is it okay to look at my hands when playing?

I'm going through modern gutar method (berklee) and when playing chords i often miss - either with left or right hand.

Is it okay to look at my hands when playing? Or should i learn to play without looking at my hands from the very beginning?

hellbike is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Ads   #
Sponsored posting
 
 
Join Date: March, 2003
Location: Forum HQ
Posts: N/A
Sponsored by...

Google is online  
Old June 18th, 2012, 10:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
hemingway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1,440
If it stops you hitting bum notes, look wherever you need to!!

I like to look at foxy chicks. Playing or not.
__________________
Sic transit gloria
hemingway is online now   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 11:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
Scantron08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Jackson, MS
Age: 38
Posts: 1,278
The only problem is that you can lose your place on the page when you look down.
Scantron08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 12:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
boneyguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: victoria b.c. CANADA
Age: 55
Posts: 9,319
You should be looking at girls when you're playing or did you forget why you started playing guitar in the first place?
__________________
I am the center of the universe and so are you.

boneyguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 12:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
TDPRI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 14
I think you're asking the wrong question. What do you gain, long term, from looking at your hands? Mostly just the need to look at your hands when making routine movements.

However in some cases when it's a very strange or unusual move or shift, looking at your hands for a sec may be much more efficient then practicing something over and over that you are not likely to do again.

If you are looking at your hands, you are generally worried about mechanics, not thinking about making music. It only slows you down and distracts you.
biggtr73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 02:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
Friend of Leo's
 
chabby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Age: 54
Posts: 2,772
It doesn't much matter. i've seen great players that watch their hands all the time to terrible players that never looked once. I've developed kind of a peripheral vision from performing for many years and don't meed to stare at the damn thing, but at the same time not afraid to look when I have to.
chabby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 04:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
H. Mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: In the South, U.S.A.
Age: 58
Posts: 1,133
Yes, it's okay to look at your hands when you play. No question about it. Want proof? Here ya go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_oaqMjZZFc
__________________
Sometimes I wonder: When they invented the alphabet, how did they know what order to put it in?
H. Mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 04:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
Banned
Friend of Leo's
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Bloomington, IN
Age: 36
Posts: 3,644
I'd say as a beginner, that not only makes sense, but probably helps. When you get comfortable enough with the chords and the movements, you'll probably not have to look at your hands so much(but if you do, it's ok)
mal paso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 04:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
Tele-Holic
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: South Wales, UK
Posts: 531
Seems a strange question?, is there a right or a wrong here? You just do what you are comfortable with, and whatever helps you play better. I honestly dont think there is a right or wrong here
__________________
PeterVV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 04:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
Friend of Leo's
 
Maxwell Street's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: chicago usa
Posts: 2,811
eventually you'll know where to go, on some moves a glance might be all that's needed to maintain your bearings...
Maxwell Street is online now   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 05:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
Tele-Meister
 
czgibson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 347
With some big position shifts I think it's entirely OK to look at your hands.

If it's causing you trouble in following your score, one thing you can do is arrange your playing position so that your music and your fretting hand are close to being within the same eyeline. Violinists in orchestras often arrange things so that they can see their music, their fingers and the conductor with minimal eye movement.
czgibson is online now   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 05:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
Tarnisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brooklyn
Age: 34
Posts: 1,783
Yes. It's also okay to trace under the words on a page when reading.

Do whatever works for you. Worrying about what other people think about your methods is a sure fire way to stunt your progress.
__________________
facebook.com/householdtales
Tarnisher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
Tele-Meister
 
dngrsdave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sollitt,Il.
Posts: 208
As a beginner guitar player (less than 3 yrs)I definately have to watch my fretting hand while I play. My biggest problem now is I play mostly while sitting down with the guitar angled so I can see the fretboard. When I stand and use a strap, I have difficulty because I can't see the individual strings on the fret's.

I'm hoping as I get more familiar and better ,I'll be able to stand to play. My goal is to play at a local jam night. I'm close but I've never played in front of any one yet. I've seen other guy's sitting while playing so I plan on trying that first. I just hate to make a Fool out of myself. Although , It's not like I havent played the Fool before....just not with a guitar.
__________________
dngrsdave-

Heavy Metal Thunder
dngrsdave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 05:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
Friend of Leo's
 
bingy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Champlain Valley,Vermont, USA
Posts: 2,787
My advice to students is, try and practice not looking.
It's a link in the circuit that you don't need.
However, I agree, look if you need to look.
Look up one of my favorites, Snooks Eaglin.

bingy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 05:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
Tele-Meister
 
DonB52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wenham, MA.
Posts: 285
After over 40 years of playing, I still have to look sometimes.
__________________
Blessings
Don
DonB52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 05:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
telex76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Fort Worth,Tx.
Age: 62
Posts: 8,838
I had a piano teacher that would slap your knuckles with a ruler if you looked at your hands.
telex76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 05:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
Larry F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Iowa City, IA
Posts: 8,535
I'm not exactly Mr. Stage Presence, as I keep my eyes on the fingerboard whenever I solo. Just as I pre-hear what I am going to play, I also pre-visualize it. I use strings and their size and tautness for color, so I will often make some pretty far-reaching shifts or snaky moves.

A local guitarist has a cable show where he takes requests over a speaker-phone. He talks and plays at the same time, as if the two activities are unrelated. His field of vision is off in the distance, too. His playing is mechanically proficient, but noodly to the nth degree. He doesn't act like he is into it at all.

Bill Graham described Mike Bloomfield's guitar playing like holding a baby in his arms. It really is like that.

Someone said that Bill Wyman positioned himself onstage for maximum eye contact with the girls. If you read his book, Stone Alone, you'll see that this paid off a thousand-fold.
__________________
Check out my new book on Amazon: 2000 Blues Licks That Rock!
Larry F is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 06:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
slowpinky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne ,Australia
Posts: 1,293
Quote:
Yes, it's okay to look at your hands when you play. No question about it. Want proof? Here ya go!
Yep for sure - but there is a whole formal sitting position there that makes looking at the fingerboard more ergonomic - and allows any charts or sheet music to be in the eyeline too. If you are standing or sitting without a leg rest or footstool, then you do need to watch that you dont get into the habit of keeping your neck bent down all of the time. Not good - and will discourage eye contact.

I have been guilty of keeping my eyes closed a lot of the time - but it makes sense that you keep them open and maintain an eyeline with the rest of the band.

In the end its experience - playing jazz I can keep my eyes closed while playing - unless Im reading (where you get used to keeping eyes on the music and trusting your hands) or maybe the occasional glance for a tricky position change; and know by the way the music is going when to look around or try and catch someones eye.
__________________
"We were making music before language"
slowpinky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 06:33 PM   #19 (permalink)
Friend of Leo's
 
greggorypeccary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Raleigh, NC
Age: 44
Posts: 2,930
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterVV View Post
Seems a strange question?, is there a right or a wrong here? You just do what you are comfortable with, and whatever helps you play better. I honestly dont think there is a right or wrong here
Of course there is a right or wrong - this is the internet!

__________________
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and get onboard the Mothership.
greggorypeccary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 18th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
brewwagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: the delta bc
Posts: 6,654
Quote:
Originally Posted by telex76 View Post
I had a piano teacher that would slap your knuckles with a ruler if you looked at your hands.

.....maybe poking our eyes out would have been more effective


use your ear!
__________________
Music an art form whose medium is sound.
brewwagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump




IMPORTANT:Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult! No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2
© TDPRI.COM 1999 - 2012 All rights reserved.