Mistakes in Charlie Parker Omnibook

[daniel89]

Does anyone know how bad, how many, and WHERE the mistakes in this are. I hear it's riddled with them. I want to expand my jazz vocal from simple arpeggios and blues scales and I figure this would be a great book to study in conjunction with Ted Green's Single Note Soloing. I just don't want to be teaching myself the WRONG ideas. I'm unable to find a teacher dude to the fact I live in the middle of nowhere, so any help would be great appreciated

[mtown]

I've never used the Omnibook so I can't comment there. I've gone through Ted Green's books and thought they were just so-so. Since you said you were in the middle of nowhere may I suggest online lessons with Jimmy Bruno. I learned more from him than any book I ever purchased. He's a fabulous teacher and can cut through all of the useless nonsense and get you playing.

[daniel89]

you know I considered it. Thing is its a bit pricy, and honestly, Id rather study at my own pace. Im in university for classical music (no jazz program here) so Id like to work at my own pace. I basically have the theory and technique already, what I really want to work on is acquiring the language, which is easily done from recordings. My plan is essentially to transcribe the solo's myself then double check with the Omnibook. The Ted Greene books would just be used for technical practice and learning positions that I am not already familiar with (I have been using CAGED for almost 10 years) that he uses. I have also considered a book called patterns for jazz by Jerry Coker, as well as the Bergonzi books. I just feel like they should/could probably do me better once I have more bebop under my belt.

[klasaine]

It's all relative.
There's maybe a handful of mistakes in the omni book. I'm talking about a note here and there. The same way there are discrepancies in various Bach editions.
It's a great study tool. You won't be learning any 'wrong' ideas from the omni book.
Make sure you get TG's 'modern chord progressions' to go along with the single note soloing books.
Coker and Bergonzi are great and I'll personally recommend the Steve Khan books.

[slowpinky]

My plan is essentially to transcribe the solo's myself then double check with the Omnibook.

Well thats the best idea right there. Transcriptions of solos can be very difficult to notate - and mistakes in transcription notation have been rife in the business for decades. Technology has enabled the transcriber to be more accurate - which is cool, but individual musucians need to be responsible for transcription themselves - and if you make mistakes , keep listening until you hear where they are.

I just don't want to be teaching myself the WRONG ideas.

If you do the transcribing yourself - notation is really secondary ,so ensure you sing it(where possible) and get the notes to the instrument first - you wont get it wrong...

[daniel89]

Originally Posted by klasaine

It's all relative.
There's maybe a handful of mistakes in the omni book. I'm talking about a note here and there. The same way there are discrepancies in various Bach editions.
Coker and Bergonzi are great and I'll personally recommend the Steve Khan books.

The Bach editions are shockingly different at times. Even one note can make a HUGE difference in the character of a Bach piece though (dominant cycle or minor-dominant cycle). I appreciate the input though.

btw - I do have all of Ted's books, but I don't find chord chem and modern progressions as useful as I used to. Studying classical guitar (especially Villa-Lobos, Barrios, Bach, and Sor) helped me devise me own lines. I still want to work on some more pianistic jazz comping, but for now soloing will do as I play in a funk/r&b band, and a big band. I can comp well enough to get by for bebop too. so...yeah lol

[klasaine]

Originally Posted by daniel89

The Bach editions are shockingly different at times. Even one note can make a HUGE difference in the character of a Bach piece though (dominant cycle or minor-dominant cycle). I appreciate the input though.

Lets put it this way. The little mistakes in the omni book are not nearly as consequential as they are argued to be in some of the more disputed Bach editions. Transcribing for yourself is better anyway. Omni book is great for reading practice too.

[fakeocaster]

Even Parkers mistakes were cool.Dont worry about it