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Old March 19th, 2010, 08:46 AM   #21 (permalink)
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About three years ago, my wife and I were spending the weekend in "The Hill Country" and walked in a music store just to look around. Now up until this point, I had not "played" with or in front of an "audience" since I was in high school. I was looking at an acoustic guitar and the shop owner allowed that I sit down and "see how she sounds".....next thing I know, three guys appear from out of nowhere armed with a guitar, mandolin and acoustic bass guitar and said......"show us whatcha got!". Man oh man....the sweat popped out on my forehead, my mouth got dry and my mind went blank....I said "hey fellas, I'm not very good..." Don't worry.....we'll help ya out" was the reply. The only "tune" that I could come up with was "Folsom Prison Blues". So I nervously plunked out the intro and WOW!!! Those guys kicked in and it was MAGIC!!! Before I realized it, an hour had passed and the store was packed and people on the sidewalk looking throught the window. That was most fun I had had in a long time.

And the best part.....the next day we were in neighboring town about 30 miles away, walking down the street, "window shopping" and a couple walked up to us and said...."hey, you're the guy that was playing the guitar in Fredericksburg yesterday.....that was great!" I graciously said..."yes ma'am, thank you very much".
My wife and I continued walking down the street and I felt 10 feet tall!!

I'm sorry if I got "long winded" here. But, the point is......JAM ANYTIME, ANYWHERE!!
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Old March 19th, 2010, 09:57 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Every one starts somewhere..I have been doing it for years now ( open jam nights ) Some times I have a blast and sometimes I feel like I just got my rear end handed to me.
But every time I learn something. You will be fine ,, just do yer thing...
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Old March 20th, 2010, 10:42 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Thanks again for all the support... man, I love this forum.

I've got an idea of some of the stuff they play, but the guys says it really varies and they don't play the same stuff all the time (makes sense), but he was a little lost/vague when I asked him some good songs to learn. They played all kinds of different stuff while I was there: Floyd, Allman Bros, Doors, Eagles, Neil Young. Can you guys suggest a few good songs to learn in general, that might be commonly played? LIke I say, didn't really get a good answer from him.

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Old March 20th, 2010, 10:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Good on ya for persevering! As others have said, you're already ahead of most people by just wanting to play in public.

I'm the same way, and was terrified when I first started 3 years ago. But I have learned that the best way to get better fast is to play with others. One jam is worth hours and hours of basement practice!

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Old March 20th, 2010, 11:02 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Old March 20th, 2010, 11:42 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Hey man. If ya like the blues learn a bit or get someone to help you. I took a few lessons from a hotshot cat when I was 17. He thought the blues were lame but taught me Stormy Monday using 9 chords. Those chords became a big part of my style to this day. Learn what you like. Stay on time. Start slow, tap your foot, use a metronome but keep a good steady beat. Play what you love. Standards in what ever genre moves you. You have the right idea.
Many years ago I was listening to some pros jamming at a concert hall I worked at. It was just friends and family of the AWHQ. One of the founders told me to grab his Strat and sit in. One of the guys asked me what I was doing. I told him Hank said to play his rig. A couple of the guys moved over by me and helped me out a bit. I bowed out after a couple of tunes cause it was plain I was getting in the way. But hey, I got my feet wet. Those guys were starting one of the hottest bands in Austin, Balcones Fault. And frankly, I was on my way to play with the likes of Mance Lipscomb, Johnny Gimble, George Thorogood, Eric Johnson, and others that weren't famous but were equally as good. Ya gotta start somewhere. I never "made it" but it has been a great ride. Everything good in my life has come to me through my love for music and the guitar.
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Old March 20th, 2010, 11:48 AM   #27 (permalink)
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As we say in Texas "you gonna get yer feet wet or jump in the creek?"...go on and jump in the creek and enjoy it...I suck..but I play in front of people all the time...no worries!
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Old March 20th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I see you met Charlie the drummer. He is a good guy, and has only been playing for a couple of years himself, so he is real supportive of people that are just starting out.

I'm there every week, playing bass (older dude with glasses), the jam seems to change every month or so. Lately been a bit heavier music with a couple of younger guys. I personally would like to see a bit more country, good blues (not Red House), but it is what it is.

My name is Ed, and I get there around 9 or so. Look me up and say hello. Also, shoot me a PM on what songs you know and we can do a couple of those. Do you sing? cause that does help getting the songs you want to play get played.

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Old March 20th, 2010, 12:51 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yeah, learn ANY of the Tunes you've heard them play. Then, just pick that Tune yourself when you get asked up. They already know it!

A simple 12 Bar Blues works too. Instrumentals are good. "Hideaway", "Bright Lights Big City", "Sweet Home Chicago", "Stormy Monday", all usually go over well.



A good, easy to Jam Tune for some Classic Rock type stuff might be "Breakdown" by Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers.


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Am G

CHORUSES

Am G F G
Am G F G
Am G F G
Am G F G
F G F G F G

SIGNATURE LEAD LINE

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AGAE
EDEA
AGAE


Solo with Am Pentatonic.
I think that's right. But, I don't have a guitar handy to make sure.

Also, maybe get the Greg Koch DVD "BLUES". He shows a whole Setlist worth of Tunes. No reading required, as he shows you with hands on demos. Excellent stuff!

http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Signatu...9103174&sr=8-2

Hope some of this helps!
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 11:15 AM   #30 (permalink)
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My best friend and I have been jamming together for 20 years. He is now an excellent guitarist, certainly more than qualified to jam at an open mic blues event. But every time I try to get him out to play live he has a 1000 excuses. He says he's fine and wouldn't get stage fright but I can tell he's scared ****less. I play live all the time but I've given up on getting him up on a stage. Some people just will not step out of their comfort zone.

So congrats for taking a shot soon! You WILL be scared ****less but you'll also (probably) be fine. The worst case scenario is that you'll freeze up and play like crap and people will yell at you to get off a stage. That happened to me a long time ago and I survived.. you'll be fine. Good luck!

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Old March 23rd, 2010, 12:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Thanks, Allen. Funny thing is, I'm a little surprised i want to do it... but after playing for a year by myself, i felt like i wanted to take the next step, both to improve, and to see if i enjoy it. Although, it isn't really part of my job, i periodically need to speak in front of groups of people. I think that helps, but it's not nearly as personal, plus in those situations, i generally know what i'm talking about.
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 12:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Funny to me that this comes up now. I've played guitar on and off for 40 years, but haven't played with others or in front of people in more than 30 years. I considered myself a decent playing hobbyist with a lack of confidence. As I've gotten older, my desire to find the right situation to play has returned. Cut to the chase....last week I answered a CL ad from a drummer in his 50's, first phone contact is Sat.AM, he says there's a blues jam that afternoon, try to make it. I went and left my guitar in the car. I meet him for the 1st time along with a bass player who also answered the ad. He says what do you want to play? We're goin' up together. OK(gulp). I get my guitar and we go up and do two tunes. As soon as I stepped onstage I felt no nervousness, and felt as if I belonged there. I didn't feel I played that great, but afterwards was stunned by the compliments I received. My first time with two guys I just met, in front of over 100 people, I had a great time, why did I wait so long?
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:09 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Great that you made a connection and can play with some of them first, without the public pressure/support. Do that and then jump into the jam.

To me, an important tip for going to jam is to avoid overplaying which may be a tendency after seeing better players at the jam. Keep it simple and you'll do fine. Remember to use you ears to stay with the beat and chord changes. Not following those can be a mess for a beginner. No one will mind if you keep your playing simple.
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It is intimidating but do not let that stop you. I have not played out anywhere in 30 years and since I have taken up guitar again after all this time I am tempted. But the thought alone give me stomach butterflies - but I know how much better I would get if I were pushed. So why don't you go out there and get started for me and let me know how the water is?
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 09:13 PM   #36 (permalink)
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The trick is , you be the first one to call out a song. Do that three times and get off the stage before some one calls out a song you dont know..........
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 09:23 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 09:37 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I've a similar story took up the tele again about 5yrs ago and 2 good pals who are both pro players pushed me up to sit in (not a blues jam) the first guy tricked me into it. In fact he called me up on the spot in front of the Baltimore Blues society! funny thing is one member asked me later what was that band I used to be in? As if he had seen me play sometime, I said I,m sure your mistaken. The other pal called me up this time I knew ahead of time but he made me sit in the whole last set and I didn't know a single song...yikes!

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I used to go to blues jams all the time around Dallas and Denton. I like them. Most of the people running them are nice guys, sometimes you meet a prick who thinks he's to good to get you up if he doesn't know you.

When I was in high school some friends and I formed a blues band. We used to go to jams a lot for practice in front of an audience. This one time we go without the bass player, so they put up this other high school kid. We start some blues in E. He asks "what key is it in", I say E, he says "the whole time?". At this point I'm thinking this guy is a badass who wants to throw in key changes and we're gonna be OK. So I'm like "yeah E the whole time".

He played an E the whole time. Apparently, by key he meant pitch, because he never shifted away from an E. I'm trying to scream out the 1-4-5 changes to him and he looks at me like "I thought you said E the whole time". That was painful, but the guy got through it.
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So, did you ever get up there to play? Or, have you gone to the other Players' house to Jam some more?
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