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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Bottle Let Me Down (steel lick on guitar)

Anybody have a method to simulate the steel lick at 0:28?

It slides back and forth and sounds like some sort of double stop. Can it be done on a Tele?

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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8uR5...eature=related
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks dijos!

That was great for the steel intro, but I'm looking to simulate the sliding lick at 0:28 after the 1st verse begins.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 02:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I just love the feel of the Steel & the Guitar in this song. It's short, sassy, yummy, funky, snappy, musical, & soulful. Can't top this, I would think!

Could someone please let me know who played the steel and the lead guitar in this session (Tonight The Bottle Let Me Down)?

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Old November 3rd, 2009, 07:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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On the "steal my licks" thread from a few weeks ago..here on this forum..I tabbed out how I play this lick..works for me anywayz..
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 08:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Here's what I'd do:

Third finger, third string, seventh fret. (D)
First finger first string, fifth fret (A)
Pinky, second string, eighth fret. (G)
Second finger is optionally backing up the third finger for the bends.

(This is one of the 'classic' steel lick positions)

Now the fun begins!!!

Bend the third string up a tone, (E) hold it and let it ring, and pop, or snap that first string (A) with the second finger on your picking hand (hybrid picking style)
Hit the already bent third string again
Pop the second string (fretted with your pinky) in that hybrid style again.
Hit the already bent third string again and let the bend release, so you have a ringing third string fretted in the seventh fret, and then pull it off leaving the third string ringing from the fifth fret, which is now fretted with the first finger.

Using hybrid picking, you're basically alternating the fretted A, and E notes with the bent third string (D to E)

Then, play the same bent note (D to E) Against the (fretted with your pinky) G at the same time, do the reverse bend into a pulloff that you did above, picking both strings at the same time, and resolve it with, say both the G and a C# note on the third fret which would suggest an A7th chord, which would be where you are in the song.

It's tricky to master if you don't have the essence of hybrid picking down, and it zips by pretty fast. Timing is of the essence here. It's all about the phrasing that makes these sort of licks work!

It seems like a lot of typing here for a lick that goes past in a couple of seconds, but once you start to see, and get a feel for these types of things on the fretboard, it becomes second nature.

Hope this helps!
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 10:18 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm at work right now, but I'll be trying this as soon as I get home. In imagining this lick in my head, I think I've played a Marty Stuart lick like this before.

I keep one of my 3 electrics with .09-.46 strings to make steel bending licks a wee bit easier.

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I'm sure I've got a Hot Liks DVD of James Burton showing how this is done (along with a whole heap of his other stuff). I'll look it up
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Old November 5th, 2009, 06:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I just love the feel of the Steel & the Guitar in this song. It's short, sassy, yummy, funky, snappy, musical, & soulful. Can't top this, I would think!

Could someone please let me know who played the steel and the lead guitar in this session (Tonight The Bottle Let Me Down)?

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I just asked my pop and he said it was Norm Hamlet playing steel on that track.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 10:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks...looking forward to it.
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Its exercise #25 on this DVD here - I've got this one. Its not a super-hard riff to get to grips with, but his chicken-pickin' style takes a bit of practice to really master. I will try and find a bit of spare time to tab it out this w/e

http://video.barnesandnoble.com/DVD/...e/752187437604

There's also a you tube vid of him (on one of his tele's) and Jerry Garcia backing Elvis Costello on a version here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYmcYubnak8

There's some guff about him here;

http://www.elvis.com.au/presley/jame...yroyalty.shtml

and (one of) his official website(s) here:

http://www.james-burton.net/portal/index.php
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I just asked my pop and he said it was Norm Hamlet playing steel on that track.
BuddyLee, Thank you very much. Norm Hamlet...Wow! I guess Roy Nichols played the guitar on that track then. It doesn't sound like James Burton or Reggie Young to me.
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BuddyLee, Thank you very much. Norm Hamlet...Wow! I guess Roy Nichols played the guitar on that track then. It doesn't sound like James Burton or Reggie Young to me.
The internet says it was Ralph Mooney, it also says Roy Nichols and James Burton both played on that album.

I wonder what the real deal is?

Although he has recorded that track more than once if I remember right.
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The internet says it was Ralph Mooney, it also says Roy Nichols and James Burton both played on that album.

I wonder what the real deal is?

Although he has recorded that track more than once if I remember right.
Thanks again Buddy Lee. I sincerely believe that whoever played those "ticklish" licks on the guitar must be the same guy who did the solo on Merle's "The Fugitive" because I can hear the snappy sound plus the semi-tone he created. I doubt it that it's James Burton. I saw Roy Nichols on YouTube and I believe it was him who played "Tonight the Bottle Let Me Down" originally. But, then again I really don't know.
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