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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Jun 2006
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What is this UNCOMMON chord progression?
I have always liked the song 'I Am the Walrus' by the Beatles, but never paid attention to the musical structure of it. I have always liked the way the song ended with a strange chord progression that seems to have no beginning or end to it. It is seven measures, and it is repeated 2-3 times in the last minute, with all major chords:
A-G-F-E-D-C-B (repeat) This obviously doesn't fit one key (but I would be fine with a new 'key' for each measure). If you asked one of the string players playing the notes a-g-f-e-d-c-b-a they would say they are playing a descending a-minor scale. It is a little bit dizzy sounding, and as a kid I would play it over and over again (without wondering why). Now, I have to know why. How does this work so well? |
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Sep 2006
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i think it works well because of the symmetrical movement. whole step, whole step, half step, whole step, whole step, half step, and then a whole step back to where you began. it has a certain kind of familiarity to it, even though the ear may have never heard it before--it follows a descending pattern that the ear can latch onto after one pass, and it doesn't break from this patter to return to it's starting point.
as for what key it's really in, that's tough. obviosly not one key. if i were soloing over it, honestly, i'd just ignore that thought and treat every chord seperately...
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Tele-Afflicted
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I love playing that tune; I started out trying to learn to play the intro on guitar and got hooked.
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Tele-Afflicted
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It's only when you try to play those songs, or sing them, that you find out they have a lot more going on than meets the eye/ear. (I never noticed the meter changes in 'All You Need is Love' until recently. Now it just smacks me in the face when I hear it.) Oh, and walternewton, a big THANK YOU for that link to the musicology analyses of Beatles tunes. I'll be spending some time there! |
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Jun 2006
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A "harmonic Moebius strip", I love it! That guy also says the song at the end has a "high center of gravity." I like they way he writes.
The chords are descending at the end, along with the low strings (cello/bass?) like I mentioned. I forgot that the high strings ascend at the same time. Pure genius. |
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I've always been a fan of unexpected harmonic cadences. Among my alltime faves is this very dark treatment by Nelson Riddle of an arrangement for strings on the into and outro of a well known Monk composition, as sung by Linda Rondstadt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-iN-jIy1LA |
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