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Old March 25th, 2009, 02:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Got a favorite chord and voicing?

there's some chords and specific voicings I just love. I wonder if any of you think about that kinda trivial stuff as much as I do?

here's a few:

x x 6 5 3 3 (used as a Bb13)

and

0 x 5 4 3 2 (as an Em9)

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Old March 25th, 2009, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A7 for country-ish Blues.
I over use this shape in "Key to the Highway"

x 0 2 2 5 3

It just DOES it for me.
Simple things for simple minds.

And, I think this would be an A9

x x 7 6 8 6

I like to walk up to the bass note like this:

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-------5----6---7--
---7---------
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for a funky Slim Harpo-y Ti Ni Ne Ni Nu thing.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 04:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A maj/min 7
x02120

and D maj/min 7
x00222

To me, most maj/min 7 sound beautiful.
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Old March 25th, 2009, 04:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I like 6 x 0 5 6 0, I guess it's a Bb 9, with the fifth and flat fifth in there, it's beautiful i do believe, sounds good after a G

also this is nice 5 3 2 0 0 0 , A min9

and x x 9 11 8 10 for a killer Gmaj7
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Old March 25th, 2009, 04:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Probably my favourite is this maj7#11 grip.

Eg. Gmaj7#11

3x4422

I also like that Bb13 voicing that jazztele showed and the Bb13b9 that falls out of it. I usually play the root on the bottom.
6 x 6 4 3 3
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Old March 25th, 2009, 04:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Okay, I'll play:

Code:
Dom7/b7
x      x
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|2||3|    
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Dom7/b7
 x     x
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2|||||    
     
Dom7/b7
x x 
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Maj7 (Root on 2B)
xx
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Old March 25th, 2009, 04:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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there's some chords and specific voicings I just love. I wonder if any of you think about that kinda trivial stuff as much as I do?

here's a few:

x x 6 5 3 3 (used as a Bb13)
I love that voicing too. I use it a lot as a m7b5 though - Dm11b5. It's also a G phrygian chord. Very 'Wayne Shorter' in both applications.

Here's a current favorite Dma7 ...

----x----
----3----
----6----
----4----
----5----
----x----

Up an octave's a little tougher but worth it for the 'Monk'ish appeal ...

----10----
----14----
----11----
----12----
---(12)---
----x----
I usually play it with the 5th on the bottom, which is exactly a Thelonius Monk voicing for a maj7th.

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Old March 25th, 2009, 04:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ah, jazz guitarist dream post!

I'll be weird and just give some of my favorites in a 251 progression. I like these in this order because how they link nicley together

... key of A major for example...

B-9

x77779

Eb9b5 (commonly known as a diminished shape)

xx6767

Amaj9

xx6657

Now how about some Ed Bickert voicings?
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Old March 25th, 2009, 05:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Am, first inversion
x-x-10-9-10-x
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Old March 25th, 2009, 05:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Now how about some Ed Bickert voicings?
actually, i'm pretty sure i knicked that Bb13 in my first post from ed.

jatlrdierk, those are definitely nice chords, but they're just maj7's. try x 0 7 5 5 4 and you'll hear a m/maj7 sound.

a maj/m7 chord would just be a dominant seventh chord: a major chord with a flatted (minor) 7th.

and charlie, that A9 actually has a flat 9 if you're putting that Bb (6th fret note) on top, and you're right, it's very cool sounding. So to be technically correct, I'd say it's an A7b9.

Sorry for correcting folks, I just wanna make sure everyone can glean the best info they can from this thread, as it looks like it's going to be a good one.
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Now how about some Ed Bickert voicings?
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/p...hlight=bickert

Do a search for ed bickert at that site. There's more info and examples.


Another Dm11b5 (also Bb6/9):

----x----
----8----
----5----
----6----
----5----
----x----

Gm9 ...

---6----
---10---
---10---
---(8)---
---(10)---
----x----
The first 3 strings are the 'money'.

Cmaj7 (Am9) ...

----x----
----5----
----5----
----9----
----x----
----x----

D7+5 (Cm9b5) ...

----x----
----3----
----3----
----4----
----3----
----x----

G13 ...

----10----
----10----
----9----
----9----
----8----
----x----
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I really like...
X33010
a very basic variation of a standard open C but I like it a lot. Not really sure what it is, but I've used it in C contexts and F contexts, and especially when going from one to the other. It's even a little A minor-ish to my ears. I don't know my theory well enough to know what a C with both an E and an F is....I guess it's still a C since there are no sharps or flats. Sounds different from a normal C though.
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I really like...
X33010
a very basic variation of a standard open C but I like it a lot. Not really sure what it is, but I've used it in C contexts and F contexts, and especially when going from one to the other. It's even a little A minor-ish to my ears. I don't know my theory well enough to know what a C with both an E and an F is....I guess it's still a C since there are no sharps or flats. Sounds different from a normal C though.
The notes of an F major 9th are: F A C G E

The notes in your chord are: C F G A E

Going just by the notes themselves, I'd say you've got an F major 9th. However, I would be in favor of having the lowest note be the root. Then you have a C major chord with an added 4th (or 11th). If you didn't have the open E, I would hear this as an C with a suspended 4th. I agree that it seems to be a very flexible chord, due to this ambiguity.
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The notes of an F major 9th are: F A C G E

The notes in your chord are: C F G A E

Going just by the notes themselves, I'd say you've got an F major 9th. However, I would be in favor of having the lowest note be the root. Then you have a C major chord with an added 4th (or 11th). If you didn't have the open E, I would hear this as an C with a suspended 4th. I agree that it seems to be a very flexible chord, due to this ambiguity.
No matter what your lowest note is, the bass players note will be lower ;-) You may find your notion of the root over-ruled.
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I really like...
X33010
a very basic variation of a standard open C but I like it a lot. Not really sure what it is, but I've used it in C contexts and F contexts, and especially when going from one to the other. It's even a little A minor-ish to my ears. I don't know my theory well enough to know what a C with both an E and an F is....I guess it's still a C since there are no sharps or flats. Sounds different from a normal C though.
It's most commonly used as an Fmaj9, though in a lot of modern jazz and more sophisticated pop they'll have the sus4 along with the maj.3rd frequently. Csus4(w/3)

If you get rid of the low C it can also be a C/F. Sometimes this is referred to as a 'slash' chord (not the guitarist of GnR fame) - C with F in the bass or C over F.
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Gm9 ...

---6----
---10---
---10---
---(8)---
---(10)---
----x----
The first 3 strings are the 'money'.
Nice! I always thought of that as Bbmaj7, never tried it for the Gm9!

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Cmaj7 (Am9) ...

----x----
----5----
----5----
----9----
----x----
----x----
Coolness!
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  ||--5--5--5--5-----5--5--5--5----5--5--5--5----5--5--5--5----||
  ||--5--5--5--5-----5--5--5--5----5--5--5--5----5--5--5--5----||
  ||--9--7--5------------------------------------------5--7----||
  ||-----------9-----7--5-------------------5----7--9----------||
  ||-----------------------8--7----5--7--8---------------------||
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G13 ...

----10----
----10----
----9----
----9----
----8----
----x----
Now THAT'S a fat money chord! Thanks for sharing!

I don't know how much these are worth, but it's easy to play, and always sounds happy to me:

Code:
 Emaj9  F#7/E
---0------0---
---7------7---
---8------6---
---6------8---
---7------7---
---0------0---

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Nice! I always thought of that as Bbmaj7, never tried it for the Gm9!
It's just the relative minor... it's like playing Am instead of a C
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It's just the relative minor... it's like playing Am instead of a C
I know, it's just that the "Ti-Do" on the top two strings is so pronounced, I never thought about it as anything other than a major 7.

---6----
---10---
---10---
---(8)---
---(10)---
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--5--
--2--
--2--
--2--
--0--
--0--

A major with the e string A note fretted at the 5th fret.
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