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Old March 27th, 2009, 01:02 PM   #41 (permalink)
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An Ebmin7 #5, or add on the E's and it's like a Emaj9/6 (not really sure how you name that). I like to alternate between using Eb as the bass note and using E.
Well, like BoneyGuy said, we are all just making sounds and wiggling our fingers, but for the sake of terminology, i've always known it as an Ebmin7(b6) and Emaj6/9.

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Old March 27th, 2009, 01:19 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Two notes is a DIAD ...

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If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. I was of the understanding that there had to be three notes for a chord.
... three notes is a triad.
Generally accepted, is that two notes really isn't a chord per se, but they can outline the main harmony and/or define the main harmonic color. They work best in context. Ie, guitarist playing C# and E while the piano player hits A and G#. Together they get an Amaj7 chord.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 04:11 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Diad: A two note chord. See Interval.
Triad: A three note chord
Quadrad: A four note chord
Pentad: A five note chord
Hexad : A six note chord
Heptad: A seven note chord
Octad: An eight note chord
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Old March 27th, 2009, 04:41 PM   #44 (permalink)
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X 0 4 4 5 5 A 6/9 ?
0 11 11 11 12 12 E 6/9 ?

I found the E somewhere in this forum.
Pretty ending Chord
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Old March 27th, 2009, 04:52 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Can I vote for E7#9sus4? I like it because it's easy!!!

0 0 0 0 0 0

Oh, and there is the octave...
12 12 12 12 12 12

Really, I can't think of a favorite chord, but I guess I try some of the chords mentioned here just to see how they might fit in music I play.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 04:52 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Diad: A two note chord. See Interval.
Triad: A three note chord
Quadrad: A four note chord
Pentad: A five note chord
Hexad : A six note chord
Heptad: A seven note chord
Octad: An eight note chord
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Old March 27th, 2009, 05:28 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Can I vote for E7#9sus4? I like it because it's easy!!!

0 0 0 0 0 0

Oh, and there is the octave...
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As I stated earlier in this thread, I'm not the Theory Police, just a Cadet...

I would call that one Em7(11). The G is a b3, not a #9, and since it has the b3 (G), it's not a sus, but a T11.

BTW, Quadrads can also be called Tetrads, but saying "Quad" sounds cooler to me. E.g., "Keep it simple and lay off the quads..." or, "Nice fat quad voicing...", etc.

As I said, Cadet...
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:22 PM   #48 (permalink)
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One of my current favorite groups is actually pretty simple:
E9 - 0-11-12-11-0-12
A9 - X-0-5-6-0-5
B9 - 7-6-7-6-0-7 ( You have to wrap your thumb around to catch the low B at 6/7 for this one.)

I like to slowly strum, or arpeggiate these chords over a swing tempo. Kind of reminds of the steel stuff on Hank Sr.'s old songs.
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Old March 28th, 2009, 09:21 PM   #49 (permalink)
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My two favorites are chords I like to use as ending chords. For a minor key (A minor in this example), I like the Amin6/9 chord: 5 x 4 5 5 7

For a song in the key of E, I like the E 6/9 chord as an ending chord, with the following voicing: 0 11 11 11 12 12
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Old March 29th, 2009, 04:55 AM   #50 (permalink)
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No one says "diad". Ever. Except maybe when they have the flu and are trying to say, "Dianne". :)

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2 notes = double stop
3 or more notes = chord

If you find yourself using, "Heptad" more than twice per month and it's not your son's name it's time to see a psychologist and/or stop drinking herbal tea.

Here's my currently favorite voicing, a C# minor ninth chord:

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x

Try moving it to an Asus2 or Esus4 (same notes) for a nice suspended texture that will make women think you're deep. Cheers. :)
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No one says "diad". Ever. Except maybe when they have the flu and are trying to say, "Dianne". :)

K.I.S.S.
2 notes = double stop
3 or more notes = chord

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i gotta disagree and stick up for the diad. to me, if the two notes are truly suggesting a chord, it's a diad. doublestops need not suggest a chord (think of all the different chuck-berryisms you can do over an A chord, for example), and i think a lot of folks automatically think two adjacent strings when they hear the term "doublestop," and of course, a diad need not be played as such.
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Great thread, some cool grips here... dig jazz tele's Bb13 and klasine's close maj7 voicings. And Corey's 'chick-friendly' suspended progression

These get a rotation in my playing these days...
Cadd9b5 - x 3 4 0 3 0
C7b5 - 8 x 8 9 7 x
"Magic Sam" E7 - 0 (7) x 7 5 7
Good ol' gospel C11 - 8 x 8 7 6 8 (thumb on bass)
'Robben Ford' G13th - x 8 9 9 8 x

And just for kicks the 'Petrucci' Emaj9 that somehow stuck from an magazine column years ago. Almost impossible to play on the fly, barring with both index and pinky, but a nice sounding chord.

12 14 16 16 16 12
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No one says "diad". Ever.
The only reason I even know the term Diad is because another musician asked me once, "do you want me to just play diads here?". Not really too uncommon in 'my' neck of the woods - ?
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Old March 29th, 2009, 03:14 PM   #54 (permalink)
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You can disagree all you want -- but 99.9999% of guitarists don't refer to double-stops as diads. Sorry. :)
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"Monads" anyone?
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"Monads" anyone?
Gonads?

... and guitarists are certainly not all the musicians. I was actually referencing how a piano player or bass player or even a two horn section will commonly refer to two note voicings. And generally speaking, in my experience as a guitar player - guitarists are rarely musicians . Which is why so many other musicians tilt their heads like Nipper the RCA dog when we start talking about 'power chords, box patterns and positions' etc.
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I was too. The term double-stop is not guitar-based my friend, it originates from organs. And 99% of musicians do not use the word diad *especially* bass players. :)

In fact this is the first time I've seen it used in years... Ahh the internet!
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Maybe it's an L.A. thing? We say diad a lot. What can I tell ya?

*Anyway, the 'diad' thing in this discussion came about because a poster was asking, what you call a two note chord? If a 3 note chord is a triad, a two note chord is a ______ . When I 'play' guitaristic double stops in any style, I/we do refer them as double stops. When we're/I'm outlining chords as part of an arrangement and not necessarily playing on two adjacent strings ... Diads. It's how I roll .

P.S. I was gigging outside of Calgary at the end of August/beginning of Sept. last summer. Had a great time - it snowed. Played no diads.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 04:55 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I've recently been enjoying simple Em7 (022030) and Bm11 (x24430) very much.
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