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Old March 26th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
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--5--
--2--
--2--
--2--
--0--
--0--

A major with the e string A note fretted at the 5th fret.

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Old March 26th, 2009, 07:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I know, it's just that the "Ti-Do" on the top two strings is so pronounced, I never thought about it as anything other than a major 7.

---6----
---10---
---10---
---(8)---
---(10)---
----x----
That's how I roll. I love's me some 1/2 steps ... anywhere I can get 'em .

Even this 'stock' Bbmaj7 is a very usable Gm9 (I think JazzTele has the same shape for an Em9 listed in one of the early posts) ...

----5----
----6----
----7----
----8----
----x----
----x----

High to low it's the 9, 7, 5, 3 for the Gm9 ... and 7, 5, 3, 1 for the Bbmaj7.

*The more extensions and/or alterations you use, the less important the root becomes.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 02:05 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Technically not even a chord -it's really just stacking root and fifths- but it's huge, overwhelming, and awesome:

6th string -open
5th and fourth string barred with your first finger
3rd string in the fourth fret with your third finger
2nd string in the fifth fret with your pinky
1st string open

It's the omnipotent and all consuming E! You don't even need distortion to have this baby rock the house!!!
Make sure you've got your safety goggles on!
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Old March 27th, 2009, 02:12 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Technically not even a chord -it's really just stacking root and fifths- but it's huge, overwhelming, and awesome:

6th string -open
5th and fourth string barred with your first finger
3rd string in the fourth fret with your third finger
2nd string in the fifth fret with your pinky
1st string open

It's the omnipotent and all consuming E! You don't even need distortion to have this baby rock the house!!!
Make sure you've got your safety goggles on!
Technically that is a chord. Two or more notes sounding simultaneously is a chord.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 02:49 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Technically that is a chord. Two or more notes sounding simultaneously is a chord.
Hey boney, congrats! Didn't know that you had been promoted to the Theory Police... (just kidding!) I'm still just a Theory Cadet...

Brokenjoe, I call that an E5, but I agree, it's a nice voicing!

BTW, What would you guys call this:

-9-
-10-
-12-
-12-
-x--
-x--

A7(11)/D????
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Old March 27th, 2009, 02:52 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Hey boney, congrats! Didn't know that you had been promoted to the Theory Police...

I'm still just a Theory Cadet...

Brokenjoe, I call that an E5, but I agree, it's a nice voicing!

I wasn't promoted.....it was more like a bloodless coup.

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Old March 27th, 2009, 02:54 AM   #27 (permalink)
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BTW, What would you guys call this:

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A7(11)/D????
Honest officer, I didn't realize T11 wasn't available on Dominant 7 chords...
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Old March 27th, 2009, 02:56 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Honest officer, I didn't realize T11 wasn't available on Dominant 7 chords...
Oh a wise ass eh? You know what happens to wisenheimers in the music theory big house pretty boy?!
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Old March 27th, 2009, 03:05 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Oh a wise ass eh? You know what happens to wisenheimers in the music theory big house pretty boy?!
Now you're scaring me dude. I once had this terrible music teacher who liked using his conductor's wand as a projectile weapon... lol

So it's Gadd9#11/D?
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Old March 27th, 2009, 03:38 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Now you're scaring me dude. I once had this terrible music teacher who liked using his conductor's wand as a projectile weapon... lol

So it's Gadd9#11/D?
Sorry. Didn't mean to frighten you.


Did anyone lose an eye in that music class?
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Technically that is a chord. Two or more notes sounding simultaneously is a chord.
If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. I was of the understanding that there had to be three notes for a chord.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:16 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Very cool thread, I'll be trying these over the weekend.
Here is one I got from Scofield (as posted on the TGP dom7#9 thread last week).
-5-
-5-
-8-
-8-
-x-
-x-
SKronky little F# (insert correct chord name here)
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Old March 27th, 2009, 09:23 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Plain ol' A minor. It just hits me in the gut.
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Take a C major 7 (x 3 2 0 0 0 ) and whack an F on the bottom.
1 3 2 0 0 0
What you end up with is F C E G B E which is F maj9 ♯11.
It is a very dense sounding chord- 'alien and deep' is how I think of it.
Vai, Holdsworth both use these sorts of sounds a lot.
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BTW, What would you guys call this:

-9-
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A7(11)/D????
how's it being used? (Context Police!)
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If I'm wrong, I stand corrected. I was of the understanding that there had to be three notes for a chord.
Actually if you go looking for an opinion on this you can find both views. I was always under the impression it was 2 notes or more but apparently like most things it's not so cut and dry.

I was wrecklessly jockeying for power last night and so I made my statement like it was absolute fact. I apologize. I'll have my resignation on LarryF's desk on Monday morning.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 11:42 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Heh ;-)
I used to get into all of those kinds of argu.... discussions with my drummer, who was really a musicians musician. Guy could play ANYTHING if you left him alone with it for about fifteen minutes.
You're right about things being not so cut and dry. Sometimes chords have a particular name because of the chords that preceed it or follow it. I guess it's all about context.
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Actually if you go looking for an opinion on this you can find both views. I was always under the impression it was 2 notes or more but apparently like most things it's not so cut and dry.
You are essentially correct.
We can think of a dyad as an interval rather than a chord, but it doesn't really matter either way.
I'm not sure this is a question that will ever be answered definitively, it all comes down to personal preference.
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Heh ;-)
I used to get into all of those kinds of argu.... discussions with my drummer, who was really a musicians musician. Guy could play ANYTHING if you left him alone with it for about fifteen minutes.
You're right about things being not so cut and dry. Sometimes chords have a particular name because of the chords that preceed it or follow it. I guess it's all about context.
This is an obvious lie!!! If you had chosen any other musician for your little 'story' it would have been more believable...but a drummer!

Just kidding.

I agree that context is everything for sure and we can argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin till the cows come home but ultimately...so what?
When I'm playing my guitar I don't care about the terminology of what I'm doing, I'm just making sound.



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You are essentially correct.
We can think of a dyad as an interval rather than a chord, but it doesn't really matter either way.
I'm not sure this is a question that will ever be answered definitively, it all comes down to personal preference.
Absolutely. At some point what you call things becomes irrelevant. At some point it's useful to show you can walk(or play) your talk. At that point terminology ain't worth a wooden nickel.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 12:32 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Technically that is a chord. Two or more notes sounding simultaneously is a chord.
I thought technically 3 or more notes make up a chord.

x 6 4 6 0 x

An Ebmin7 #5, or add on the E's and it's like a Emaj9/6 (not really sure how you name that). I like to alternate between using Eb as the bass note and using E.
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