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Old August 1st, 2008, 11:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Please help with this chord **Bb/Gm**

As in the Ringo Starr version of Only You (and you alone).

C E7
Only you can make this world seem right
Am Bb/Gm
Only you can make this darkness bright
F G C Am
Only you and you alone can thrill me like you do
D7 G7
And fill my heart with love for only you.


Nothing I've tried seems to sound correct.

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Old August 2nd, 2008, 01:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like a plain old Bb 7 at that point to me.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 02:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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C E7
only you, can make the world seem right

Aminor C7th
only you, can make the darkness bright

F G G+ C Aminor A7th(quick!)
only you, and you alone, can thrill me like you do

D7th G G G+
and fill my heart with love...for only you........



then on to the next part of the verse.....this is the arrangement i always used best as i can remember without actually having my guitar in hand....correct?...dunno, but it seemed close....hope this helps...hadn't thought of the song in forEVER...a good one, tho....
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 02:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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don't know what happened with the chord changes...they are all squeezed together over the first word of every line????..way it shows up in the post ain't the way i typed it out...??.....i am sure you can figger out where the chords go, tho...i tried...!!!!...sorry
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Thanks Bender, that be the one!
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don't know what happened with the chord changes...they are all squeezed together over the first word of every line????..way it shows up in the post ain't the way i typed it out...??.....i am sure you can figger out where the chords go, tho...i tried...!!!!...sorry
There may be other ways, but the way I use that seems to work is do it first in your word processing program. Use an equal spaced font like Courier or Courier New, and when putting the chords above the words, use the space bar to move the new location, rather than the cursor. Then paste it in to forum reply screen using the code button (#), which will preserve the font and formatting.

Use an equal spaced font for homemade tab, too.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 11:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't understand the part about pasting it in with the code button #.

Are you saying if I have copied something that I can paste it using only the # button?
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I don't understand the part about pasting it in with the code button #.

Are you saying if I have copied something that I can paste it using only the # button?
No, sorry if I wasn't clear. In your word processor program, select all that you want to paste in, use CTRL C to paste it to your clipboard, and then in the reply screen on the forum you hit the # key, which gives you bracketed #'s. Put the cursor between the pair of brackets, then CTRL V to paste it in.
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thanks for the info, Leon...i had done this before for guys on some chord changes for songs, and never had this happen...i'll copy your method out and put it in my "I'm Too Stupid To Have A Computer" notebook....
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Thanks Leon, I figured it out by putting a character in the "reply" field and then selecting "go advanced". I don't think you can do that until you put a character in the reply field.

Then I hit the # button on the top menu and copied my text betwixt the # signs by doing a paste (ctrl-v):

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     C                  E7
Only you can make this world seem right
     Am                 Bb/Gm
Only you can make this darkness bright
     F            G         C                 Am
Only you and you alone can thrill me like you do
     D7                                G7
And fill my heart wilth love for only you.

     C                  E7
Only you can make this change in me
         Am                Bb/Gm
For it's true, you are my destiny
          F              Fm             C             A7
When you hold my hand I understand the magic that you do
           D7                 G7           C
You're my dream come true, my one and only you.
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No, sorry if I wasn't clear. In your word processor program, select all that you want to paste in, use CTRL C to paste it to your clipboard, and then in the reply screen on the forum you hit the # key, which gives you bracketed #'s. Put the cursor between the pair of brackets, then CTRL V to paste it in.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 04:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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as for the chord changes i tried to post for this song....i was posting the ORIGinal version by the Platter's from 1955, which is the version i do and the only one i know or am familiar with.......do a Google and there will be lots of sites with lyrics and chords but they seem to all be in the key of G, but it is a simple transposition to put them in C chord...

didn't even know Ringo did a version...!!!..from what i found printed out for his "version" it is not quite the same as the original nor does he seem to be doing the complete song....

sorry for the confusion....two different versions....i always tried to stay as close to the original version of anything i ever did, not at ALL implying there is anything wrong with Ringo's version...just not what i was thinking of....

have fun with it....

The Guitar Guy has a version on his site that is almost chord for chord with the way i did the song, except, again...he is in G instead of C......
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Are you sure it's not Gm/Bb ? This would be a Gm with the third (Bb) played as a bass note. Honestly, the chord that I would play in the spot is a C7. I don't have a guitar here so I can't check it, but that is what I believe is the right chord.
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i agree completely...

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Are you sure it's not Gm/Bb ? This would be a Gm with the third (Bb) played as a bass note. Honestly, the chord that I would play in the spot is a C7. I don't have a guitar here so I can't check it, but that is what I believe is the right chord.
i have listened to it several times since this topic came up the other day...Ringo Starr, the original and all covers i have found are just using a 7th chord as far as i can tell...and all comp sheets and chord sheets i have found for the song show a 7th....

i suppose other chords would work there, but i'm pretty sure it's just a plain ol' simple C7th.....
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a plain ol' simple C7th.....
that's what works for me, too.
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Thanks Leon, I figured it out by putting a character in the "reply" field and then selecting "go advanced". I don't think you can do that until you put a character in the reply field.

Then I hit the # button on the top menu and copied my text betwixt the # signs by doing a paste (ctrl-v):

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     C                  E7
Only you can make this world seem right
     Am                 Bb/Gm
Only you can make this darkness bright
     F            G         C                 Am
Only you and you alone can thrill me like you do
     D7                                G7
And fill my heart wilth love for only you.

     C                  E7
Only you can make this change in me
         Am                Bb/Gm
For it's true, you are my destiny
          F              Fm             C             A7
When you hold my hand I understand the magic that you do
           D7                 G7           C
You're my dream come true, my one and only you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEe4zMBQlaQ
LIstening to the original, which is in Eb, you can hear that bender freak has it correct....that Bb/GM is incorrect....the song goes back to the I chord with a flatted 7th added.
Benderfreak has added some nice passing chords in there, also.
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hey...thanks..

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEe4zMBQlaQ
LIstening to the original, which is in Eb, you can hear that bender freak has it correct....that Bb/GM is incorrect....the song goes back to the I chord with a flatted 7th added.
Benderfreak has added some nice passing chords in there, also.

i'm not accustomed to being right too often
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It hasn’t been expressly stated, but it understandable one might mistake Gm for C7, because they have two notes in common. Gm is spelled G Bb D, and C7 is spelled C E G Bb, so both have G and Bb. C9 is even more similar, as it adds the note D to the C7 chord, giving it all three notes of the Gm chord.

In fact, C7 or C9 are fairly common substitutes for Gm, when Gm is the iv chord in the key of D. So the very common progression D D7 G Gm D can be played D D7 G C9 D. Sounds a little more sophisticated.
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you are correct, Leon...and i found myself using C9 most of the time when playing this song or others similar...

reason i said 7th chord is most of the guys i jam with any more have no idea or clue about 9th's or augs/dims or anything like that....a couple quotes i've heard a million times...."that ain't on MY guitar....or.....yer gettin' too damn fancy there, feller...or....that ain't country..."....it gets tedious....
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I understand being able to sub the I9(whatever key), but in this situation I feel that the I7 is more appropriate leading to the IV chord. The 1955 versino by The Platters is beautiful in its simplicity, purity and directness between the chord changes. Especially with the full vocal arrangement, the chords can exist in simple forms and allow the vocals to enrich the whole.
As for the relationship of the GM to the C7....yes, there are common notes. However, the chord obviously is a major triad. Tonal colors prevent the misunderstanding.
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I understand being able to sub the I9(whatever key), but in this situation I feel that the I7 is more appropriate leading to the IV chord. The 1955 versino by The Platters is beautiful in its simplicity, purity and directness between the chord changes. Especially with the full vocal arrangement, the chords can exist in simple forms and allow the vocals to enrich the whole.
As for the relationship of the GM to the C7....yes, there are common notes. However, the chord obviously is a major triad. Tonal colors prevent the misunderstanding.
No disagreement here; I would play C7 rather than C9. Like bender-freak's homefries, I generally prefer the simpler sound. Interesting how that one D note can alter the sound so much. I was thinking like in the intro to Since I Fell For You:

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D             Bm        Em7       A7
When you just give love and never get love

D             Bm          Em7   A7
You’ve got to let love go by.

D           D7/C    G     C9
I know it’s so, and yet I know

  Bb7                     A7
I can’t get you out of my mind.
Another aspect of this thread which is interesting is the Bb in the bass of what we now agree is a C7 chord. Having the 7th in the bass is a really distinct sound that I like. I put that in my little example above. I would play it: x3423x. Or higher up on the neck: 8x777x.
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This is actually a pretty common chord progression. Bell Bottom Blues comes to mind, for example.
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