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Old January 24th, 2008, 02:56 PM   #41 (permalink)
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they don't sound too bad....

I am going to compare them to my ESP trad 400 with Van Zants--this evening---just for grins---I will report back!-----JIMO

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Old January 24th, 2008, 03:45 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I have a white Bullet Strat en route now ... me likey!
That's the one I dig. I think one would look great with a maple neck.

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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:57 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Just got the white Bullet Strat - it's NOT "arctic white", or even "olympic white", it's a beautiful vintage white with a tiny hint of cream, just like in the pic above, really awesome. Nut width is the same 1.656" as the 'burst Bullet I had, with the same slightly "chunky" neck that's SO reminiscent of the S'51 solid maple neck. So far, I'm calling these Bullet Strats the killer guitar deal of 2008. While awaiting a set of Keystones the mods will commence ...
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Old January 29th, 2008, 02:18 PM   #44 (permalink)
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ok

Well the stock pickups don't compare to the VanZants (Gasp!--no great shock there) but I have had heard much worse....The Daphne Blue is really close to seafoam green---but thats a good thing as far as I am concerned. $100 for a great neck and painted body is a steal----I need one of those white ones---so I can have a red, white, and blue collection of Bullets----I WILL come up with a reason to buy "JUST ONE MORE"---yeah, right.......These are a no brainer good deal............cheers!-----JIMO
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Old January 30th, 2008, 02:28 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Too bad you didn't give the stock pickups a listen first. The ones that came in my hardtail Bullet Squier sounded very warm, much warmer than the '56 and '62 Custom Shop models I tried them against, without being muddy. Maybe some of that sound is due to the model I got being a hardtail, but I really like the sound.
I like the ceramic pups in the old Squier I bought recently. Just like you said, warm w/o being too muddy. The mid-neck position almost sounds like a humbucker, even though I'm pretty sure it isnt reverse-wound reverse-polarity as there's still a bit of hum.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 03:02 AM   #46 (permalink)
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i bought the boy a bullet last year for his birthday (first guitar) and he loves this thing(and so do i). nice neck, stays in tune well, and i really like the sound of the neck pickup. under 100 bucks ya can't go wrong! anyone know if you can get these things in pink? i'd like to get one of these for my daugher too
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Old January 30th, 2008, 08:39 AM   #47 (permalink)
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i bought the boy a bullet last year for his birthday (first guitar) and he loves this thing(and so do i). nice neck, stays in tune well, and i really like the sound of the neck pickup. under 100 bucks ya can't go wrong! anyone know if you can get these things in pink? i'd like to get one of these for my daugher too
Yup, pink is available ...

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Old January 30th, 2008, 08:56 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Just got the white Bullet Strat - it's NOT "arctic white", or even "olympic white", it's a beautiful vintage white with a tiny hint of cream, just like in the pic above, really awesome. Nut width is the same 1.656" as the 'burst Bullet I had, with the same slightly "chunky" neck that's SO reminiscent of the S'51 solid maple neck. So far, I'm calling these Bullet Strats the killer guitar deal of 2008. While awaiting a set of Keystones the mods will commence ...
Does this mean you have parted with the sunburst already?
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Old January 30th, 2008, 09:24 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Does this mean you have parted with the sunburst already?
Yep. Ordering out a daphne blue and another 'burst soon as MF stocks up.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 02:05 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I usually buy from MF but bought my bullets from Sweetwater--$99 --free shipping----they called a couple of times to ask how I liked them. Very nice to deal with--- IMHO-------------Cheers!-----JIMO
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Old January 31st, 2008, 11:51 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Man, I'm lovin' these Bullets. Refinished the neck in amber w/clear coats, Gotoh Kluson tuners, vintage bone nut, nut width is 1.656", nice C backshape with some shoulders and chunk just like the S'51 necks, frets dressed and polished, board cleaned and oiled, Keystone pups, CTS pots (no load tone pot w/.022uf cap), CRL 5-way, neck pup blender. Notice how this one came with an 11 hole pickguard and not 8 hole. Oh yeah, total weight is 6lbs 13ozs! It plays and sounds *wonderful* ... gotta load me up on some more Bullet ammo ...





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Old January 31st, 2008, 01:51 PM   #52 (permalink)
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That is great color, Rob.

I guess I'm exempt now that I've gone up 3 neck sizes. The Squier 51s do get special dispensation, however.


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Old January 31st, 2008, 04:33 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Man, I'm lovin' these Bullets. Refinished the neck in amber w/clear coats, Gotoh Kluson tuners, vintage bone nut, nut width is 1.656", nice C backshape with some shoulders and chunk just like the S'51 necks, frets dressed and polished, board cleaned and oiled, Keystone pups, CTS pots (no load tone pot w/.022uf cap), CRL 5-way, neck pup blender. Notice how this one came with an 11 hole pickguard and not 8 hole. Oh yeah, total weight is 6lbs 13ozs! It plays and sounds *wonderful* ... gotta load me up on some more Bullet ammo ...






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Old February 1st, 2008, 07:57 AM   #54 (permalink)
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i bought the boy a bullet last year for his birthday (first guitar) and he loves this thing(and so do i). nice neck, stays in tune well, and i really like the sound of the neck pickup. under 100 bucks ya can't go wrong! anyone know if you can get these things in pink? i'd like to get one of these for my daugher too
Next up will be a pink Bullet makeover for a client - same mods, different color body, what's not to like?
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Old February 1st, 2008, 11:11 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Next up will be a pink Bullet makeover for a client - same mods, different color body, what's not to like?
Hey, that's me!(I hope.....) I am stoked to be getting a DiStefano modded guitar. I sent you an email Rob concerning the darkness of the rosewood neck......maybe I can ask here as well since your answer may interest others. I think the Pink body cries out for something very very dark, and I have noticed that a lot of recent Fender rosewood has been on the lighter side as far as colour. Is it possible to tint the rosewood darker to get a richer and darker look?

Thanks again for taking this on and I can't wait for my shell pink bullet strat......
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The Bullet rosewood boards are, for the very most part, quite dark, probably stained.
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The reason I ask is just from the pics that I have seen, the rosewood looks a lighter shade than some of the pics that you have shown! Could be the lighting too and the photoshopped images that appear on the retailer sites. Here is the pic from the sweetwater site, you can see that the rosewood has a lighter hue; I just think the pink calls out for an almost black neck!

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Thanks to Rob, I think the whole inventory of these bullets have run dry! I managed to get the last pink one from Sweetwater.........I checked at all the other big retailers and everyone is back-ordered until mid-February! I think we should insist that Squier gives Rob a cut for selling so many of these guitars for them!
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Rob oils the fingerboards and that makes them appear darker-----JIMO
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 04:34 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I have been playing my new Squier Fat Strat from Indonesia and can't believe I got it for only $160. However I am goin to replace the pickups and humbucker with some hot Seymour Duncans.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 06:10 PM   #61 (permalink)
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!!!!! PROBLEM WITH BULLET STRATS !!!!!

The first Bullet I worked on was the burst, and after doing all the mods the setup was almost too easy with just bridge/saddle adjustments. I never even looked at the truss rod.

The 'burst Bullet found a new home while I awaited the white flavor to appear at my door step.

The 'burst Bullet seemed to have needed a truss rod tweaking, but it appeared the truss nut was either some weird metric size or it was stripped. So finally I got around to checking my white Bullet - yup, the nut barrel is basically round and can't be adjusted with a hex key. My Bullet also didn't need a rod tweak, but I was to move the nut enuf in both directions with a medium-small flat screwdriver.

Just received a pink Bullet and yup, rounded truss nut innards. This one also moved with screwdriver.

Ah me, it was almost too good to be true ....
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 07:58 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I wonder what differences there are between the whammy bar and hard tail versions of the Squier Bullet Strats, besides the obvious?

For instance, Rob, I think you mentioned how chunky the neck is. Mine is definitely not chunky. It's probably the shallowest neck I own. Not Ibanez speed metal, but fairly shallow. Also, if weight is a consideration, the hardtails ought to run lighter without the tremolo block. I picked mine out as the best sounding and lightest of four I tried at Guitar Center in December. It weighs 6 lbs, 2 oz. on my digital scale. I suppose a thin neck has something to do with that as well as the hard tail.

Also, it looks like the maple portion of the neck is made of more than one piece. The others I looked at were that way too.
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Like Boris has already said, these cheapos have multiple origins, ya just never know what surprise you'll get when ya mail order - don't think it matters much whether hard tail or trem version, either.
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This was not the point with the 51's as I remember, right?
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I called Sweetwater about the truss-rod adjustment problem ---they were going to look into it and get back to me---so far---nothing---hmnnnn-----did anyone contact MF?----------JIMO
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I called Sweetwater about the truss-rod adjustment problem ---they were going to look into it and get back to me---so far---nothing---hmnnnn-----did anyone contact MF?----------JIMO
I contacted both MF and SW - both are, umm, "looking into it".
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I was just contacted by Sweetwater.....

They said they had contacted Fender and that Fender was looking into it---(apparently about 5,000 guitars worth)-- some truss rod guy and a bunch of inspectors in China are going to be in some big "sweet and sour soup"....lol----------JIMO
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Now you see this is what happens when a entry level guitar is suddenly discovered by serious players, who actually put it to serious use. Some examples will continue to delight, others can be fixed, and still other ones have no hope of making it. Consistent quality, I suppose is one of the things we pay so much for on the US Fenders.

That's what I found so amazing on the Squier 51s. I've had, well I still have about 25 and have given quite a few away; I did cherry pick the majority, I guess 10 were mail order, but I never did have a throwaway one. I guess a couple necks don't sound as good as the others.
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Sweetwater called and said they have a Daphne Blue one that is OK---why do I have the nagging feeling they are going to send me another goofed up one? JIMO
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Rob informed me that the truss will turn with a flat-head screwdriver so that is good enough for me! Again, for $99, it still seems like a bargain!
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I hear ya brother.......

"Now you see this is what happens when a entry level guitar is suddenly discovered by serious players, who actually put it to serious use. "

The thing that threw me off was , I wasn't thinking truss rod problems-----if Rob hadn't started setting them up---I would have let it set in the box for a month or so untill I got around to setting it up and then discovered it was goofed up AFTER the "return by" date---so "good on ya Rob" ! You expect ragged fret edges, funky paint, mis-aligned stuff--this had none of that-----it is a beauty!---just one problem---don't try to adjust the truss rod!------maybe it will work out----Sweetwater seems to be on the case----so we shall see----------------cheers!----JIMO
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this just in........4:20 Central time

Just got another call from Sweetwater---they checked the replacement BEFORE they sent it out (smart guys)---sure enough---it is screwed up as well--the guy said he tried every hex nut driver he had--lol-----so---we are waiting for the next shipment to arrive to see what Squier has in store for us---Sweetwater seems to be really trying----------cheers!------JIMO
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So if we were to assume that Fender/Squier gets this sorted and you can actually adjust the truss rod do you think this is a good buy just to simply get the neck?
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So if we were to assume that Fender/Squier gets this sorted and you can actually adjust the truss rod do you think this is a good buy just to simply get the neck?
With a viable truss rod, the Bullet Strat en toto is a great buy, IMHO. Heck, I just ordered a pair of AP necks for my 'burst and white.
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However, you're saying the trussrod functions with a slotted screwdriver, correct? So if someone gets one and the trussrod flats don't hit an allen wrench, it can still be adjusted?
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Dumb question: could the truss nut be replaced, or would it be a bigger deal than one might initially anticipate?
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However, you're saying the trussrod functions with a slotted screwdriver, correct? So if someone gets one and the trussrod flats don't hit an allen wrench, it can still be adjusted?
Outta three Bullet necks, two can be slightly adjusted with a flat blade screwdriver, the third won't budge.
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Dumb question: could the truss nut be replaced, or would it be a bigger deal than one might initially anticipate?
Removing the fingerboard and replacing the the truss rod isn't worth my time.
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Removing the fingerboard and replacing the the truss rod isn't worth my time.
Nor anyone's! I thought maybe there was an off chance you could just back the nut out, but I've not taken a look at the guitar in person nor am I experienced as a repairman.
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Just got another call from Sweetwater...10:00 A.M.

Wow, these guys are really on top of this----I have never had a company communicate with me this way especially on just a couple of hundred bucks!
Fender is aware of the problem and Sweetwater is going to replace the guitars when they get the fixed versions in. The painted bodies, alone, are worth $100---so I'm not too worried---no matter what. cheers!----JIMO
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