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Old September 8th, 2007, 08:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What do you do to fatten up your strats tone?

I'm primarlily a tele player but I've been uysing the strat a bit more lately. Wondering wihat some of you may do to fatten up your tone.
I'm currently playing an AM. Series strat with Texas Specials through a vox AC30. I'm using the following effects in my rig:

Barber Tone Press, Barber LTD, Barber Direct Drive, Boss Digital delay, Arion Chorus, boss TU 2 tuner

I really like you the strat sounds with the OD pedals and don't want to loose the basic chimy tone . Just want to fatten up the clean tone so it is not so thin on its own.

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Old September 8th, 2007, 09:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Maybe you can use the OD and roll back the gain or volume, so you have some grit when you pick hard, but not too much difference from the original tone when you pick softly.
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Old September 8th, 2007, 09:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What do you do to fatten up your strats tone?
adjust the amp....

works for me !

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Old September 8th, 2007, 09:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Ditto...turn up the midrange on your amp. There's plenty of warm dirt in the midrange that you can play with.
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Old September 8th, 2007, 10:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you got a Barber Tone Press, it's easy...a small amount of the compression-maybe 8 or 0 o'clock , then add some of the clean signal in ..around 10-11 o'clock and then dial in the volume to taste. If the Tone Press and Texas Special get you a phat tone, then you've got your amp dialed in without enough bass. Perhaps playing .011 gauge strings, tune down to Eb...that's the easiet way to phat strat tones.
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Old September 8th, 2007, 11:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Crank your amps master volume to almost full.........adjust the individual channel volume to get the right tone.......this helps to get some 'dirt' from the tubes. Sounds really good (at least on my amp!!). I have 3 EQ adjustments where I have the mid and bass on almost full and the treble setting about 1/2 way. I also use my neck PUP a lot; gives you a bluesier, more gutsy tone. My amp also has one huge 15 inch speaker so that thickens the sound as well. I find that by manipulating the channel volume rather than the master, the chimes remains but the tone has more balls...........
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Old September 8th, 2007, 12:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I swapped out my saddles and trem block for Vintage Callaham's stainless steel Saddle & block. IMHO the sound is much more fat & Chimey when clean compared to stock Am series (now I really love mine:))

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Old September 8th, 2007, 01:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Usually a good setup and maybe 11-48/52 strings??
And readjust the amps for more fat tones.
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Old September 8th, 2007, 04:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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most guys using a "fat" strat tone are leaving somekind of boost on all the time and then riding the volume and usually kicking in a second peda lfor actual "dirt"
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Old September 8th, 2007, 04:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Usually a good setup and maybe 11-48/52 strings??
And readjust the amps for more fat tones.
Yup 11's make a huge diff in tone, SRV used 13's I think but tuned down a 1/2 step
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Old September 8th, 2007, 07:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Turn it up as the late Ronnie Van Zandt said on Sweet Home Alabama.
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Old September 9th, 2007, 12:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I kick in an octaver and midrange boost for solos.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:31 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Turn it up as the late Ronnie Van Zandt said on Sweet Home Alabama.
That's a good example of a 'good' strat tone, but it also shows how a tone that sounds good played by someone else doesn't necessarily work for yourself. What I mean is, I can hear that and think how nice it sounds but if I imagine being onstage playing a guitar and that sound was coming out I know I wouldn't be happy at all and would want to tighten and 'fatten' it up somehow. Most strat recordings that I like are like that if I listen to them and imagine my guitar sounding that way.
Those of us who feel comfortable with and respond to the type of sound a tele makes often seem to have a hard time with the relatively thin and hollow sound of a strat, even when it's overdriven or boosted or whatever.
If that's the case then there's very little you can do, I suspect.


Yet I'm typing this with a strat on my lap, as a matter of fact. I abolutely adore the tones I get from it sitting here, but I can't use it onstage to save my life. Not fat/solid enough, and I don't want to have to effect the life out of the thing to make it so.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 12:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Just drop in one of our own Deaf-Eddie's Fat-O-Caster switches. Cheap, improves your tone control setup, allows all the normal tones and adds the big-dog in-series and in-series/out of phase and the very cool semi-Tele neck and bridge combo. No-brainer.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 01:01 AM   #16 (permalink)
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+1 on a few already mentioned

11s
Tone pot on bridge pup ala Jimmie Vaughan/Eric Johnson
Mids at the amp and/or cranking the amp

That'll go a long way...
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Old September 11th, 2007, 02:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
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yup

all good suggestions.
Sometimes I use an old Electro Hamonix LPB -1(back when stoned out NYU art students were building them). It's really FAT sounding, it just kinda annoys me that it only has a slider switch.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 05:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Like others I use the right amp.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 07:13 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I was playing the other day through a Peavey Classic combo and it wasn't giving me any love. My Strat sounded thin and weak and wasn't cutting through the mix like it should. The other guitarist was playing an SG through a Marshall half stack and I was drowned out. Then I fiddled with the knobs and cranked the volume and got the sound I wanted. Too bad the jam was almost over by then.

I told that story to the salesman who sold me the Strat and he suggested I try a Marshall compression pedal. Bam! Instant volume boost, then I fiddled with the knobs and got that compressed sound that was big in the 80s. I was enthused at first, but when I turned it off I realized that I like the sound of a pure Strat better, no pedals. I bought the Strat for it's sound, I didn't want to mess with it. The compressor could serve as a boost pedal, but I decided to stick with the volume knob.

Next jam I played through the regular 100 W Marshall half stack and everything was just right...

To summarize:

-fiddle with the knobs on what you have
-compression may work if you can live with that sound
-find the right amp

I've been thinking of going back to pick up the compression pedal and giving it another chance...
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Old September 11th, 2007, 11:02 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Your Strat....1 quality cord....into a Nice Amp....and Practice your A$$ off...it's simple, but it Works !
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