1 Tone Knob Wiring

Antigua · July 9th, 2008, 03:57 AM

I'm trying to do a custom wiring on my 62 RI'. It's the vintage kind of wiring. What I want to do is wire all of the pickups to just one tone knob so I don't have to use the other one. I know that Rory Gallagher did it, and SRV had it on his Charley strat. That's initially what I want to replicate. Does any one have a diagram or know how to do this?

Thanks

hopdybob · July 9th, 2008, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Antigua

I'm trying to do a custom wiring on my 62 RI'. It's the vintage kind of wiring. What I want to do is wire all of the pickups to just one tone knob so I don't have to use the other one. I know that Rory Gallagher did it, and SRV had it on his Charley strat. That's initially what I want to replicate. Does any one have a diagram or know how to do this?

Thanks

just put the tonepot on the output of the switch that goos to the volume pot

Antigua · July 9th, 2008, 05:07 AM

Still somewhat confused. I'm not a big tech on this stuff. Is there perhaps another diagram you can show me?

Stewart Ward · July 9th, 2008, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hopdybob

just put the tonepot on the output of the switch that goos to the volume pot

Make use of that redundant third pot!! Here's an easy mod that'll give you the Tele middle sound on Pos's 1 & 5 plus all three PUs on pos's 2 & 4. Seven sounds in total!

charlie chitlin · July 9th, 2008, 11:23 AM

Check Seymour Duncan's website for wiring diagrams.
The master tone pot on a Strat is a great idea.
I wouldn't have mine any other way.
To be brutally honest, though...the first drawing is a very simple one.
If you can't figure it out, you're probably best off taking your guitar to a repair man.
I bet 20-25 bucks would get it done right.

andy__woods · July 9th, 2008, 11:45 AM

I did that on my latest project, and just used a Nashville Tele wiring diagram. I can't remember exactly what it looked like, but it would be similar to the first diagram shown.

hopdybob · July 9th, 2008, 12:20 PM

for myself i turn the tonepot to a greasebucket tonepot
takes away hight but ads no bass

bek · July 9th, 2008, 11:33 PM

Deaf-Eddie has what you need, but do yourself a favor. Install a Fat-O-Caster switch at the same time. You'll never look back, and he can hold your hand through the whole process. If I can do it, you can, just take your time. http://www.deaf-eddie.net/

MulliganChebichev · July 9th, 2008, 11:48 PM

The first diagram is fine, I guess the SD one is a little bit more clearer

Antigua · July 10th, 2008, 01:54 AM

Thank you guys for all your help. I really appreciate it. Those diagrams helped a lot.

Antigua · July 12th, 2008, 04:21 PM

The guitar I'm working on is a 62 RI made in Japan... so is something different? The wiring diagrams I am looking at show the master tone control reverse from what mine is. I'm wanting the first tone control as the master, not the second.

cdhopkin · July 12th, 2008, 08:51 PM

The best thing would be to follow the Seymour Duncan diagram in the post above. Just pick the pot you want to use as your tone pot and then remove the wire from the redundant one.

But if you are having any doubts the best thing to do would be to take it to a repairman. Better safe than sorry.

Antigua · July 13th, 2008, 12:33 AM

How much would that cost a tech to do? It seems to be a simple procedure even though I can't do it myself.

That plus the cost of putting the pickups in?

Rob DiStefano · July 13th, 2008, 07:13 AM

My most fave Strat wiring ...

As one can see, all the pots are 250k - standard master volume, NO-LOAD master tone w/.022uf cap, NO-LOAD neck pup blender.

It's important to use those no-load pots. In the case of the tone, not having a tone pot in the circuit will really fire up the tone of yer pups as yer playing volume increases. Imperative with the neck pup blender so that no trace of the neck pup signal leaks out when turned off.

My source for no-load Fender CTS pots has been back ordered for weeks, so I've gone back to modding standard CTS pots to no-load spex. It's really quite easy. Here's an online no-load pictorial by ProjectGuitar ...

http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/pots.htm

... I think the tutorial could be done better, but it's got the essence of the mod.

Wally · July 14th, 2008, 03:55 PM

Hello, Antigua....welcome..belatedly, but welcome.
Mulligan's post has all you need. Look at your circuit assembly in your guitar. Remove the wires that run from the switch to the tone pots. The potentiometer that is in the middle should look very similar to the one in Mulligan's post. The tone cap and the lead to the pot from the switch may be in opposite positions....no matter. IF you want to take the cap lead to the middle lug and the lead from the volume pot(this lead can be the wire that you disconnected at the switch and ran to this pot) to the outside lug, fine. IF you want to leave the cap lead on the outside lug and bring the lead from the volume pot to the middle lug, that's fine too. There is a bit of difference in what will go on, but both situations are workable.
Personally, if I were going to do this, I would move the volume away from the strings and put the tone pot in the 3rd hole a la Bill Carson. I hit that volume pot sometimes...it is a bit close to the strings for me at times. If the guitar has only these two controls, why not move them away that small distance?

July 9th, 2008, 03:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
Antigua TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 23	1 Tone Knob Wiring I'm trying to do a custom wiring on my 62 RI'. It's the vintage kind of wiring. What I want to do is wire all of the pickups to just one tone knob so I don't have to use the other one. I know that Rory Gallagher did it, and SRV had it on his Charley strat. That's initially what I want to replicate. Does any one have a diagram or know how to do this? Thanks

July 9th, 2008, 11:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
charlie chitlin Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bucktown, Pa Age: 47 Posts: 2,355	Check Seymour Duncan's website for wiring diagrams. The master tone pot on a Strat is a great idea. I wouldn't have mine any other way. To be brutally honest, though...the first drawing is a very simple one. If you can't figure it out, you're probably best off taking your guitar to a repair man. I bet 20-25 bucks would get it done right. __________________ Nil illigitimi carborundum http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...6-bf3537901a07

July 9th, 2008, 11:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
andy__woods Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 1,169 60 Photos	I did that on my latest project, and just used a Nashville Tele wiring diagram. I can't remember exactly what it looked like, but it would be similar to the first diagram shown. __________________ -- Andy "Woods" Crowder --

July 9th, 2008, 12:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
hopdybob Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2008 Location: netherlands Posts: 208	for myself i turn the tonepot to a greasebucket tonepot takes away hight but ads no bass __________________ Please excuse my poor english

July 9th, 2008, 05:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
Antigua TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 23	Still somewhat confused. I'm not a big tech on this stuff. Is there perhaps another diagram you can show me?

July 9th, 2008, 11:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
bek Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 555	Deaf-Eddie has what you need, but do yourself a favor. Install a Fat-O-Caster switch at the same time. You'll never look back, and he can hold your hand through the whole process. If I can do it, you can, just take your time. http://www.deaf-eddie.net/

July 9th, 2008, 11:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
MulliganChebichev Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon Age: 18 Posts: 1,742 3 Photos	The first diagram is fine, I guess the SD one is a little bit more clearer

July 10th, 2008, 01:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
Antigua TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 23	Thank you guys for all your help. I really appreciate it. Those diagrams helped a lot.

July 12th, 2008, 04:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Antigua TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 23	The guitar I'm working on is a 62 RI made in Japan... so is something different? The wiring diagrams I am looking at show the master tone control reverse from what mine is. I'm wanting the first tone control as the master, not the second.

July 12th, 2008, 08:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
cdhopkin Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pontypridd, South Wales Age: 30 Posts: 200	The best thing would be to follow the Seymour Duncan diagram in the post above. Just pick the pot you want to use as your tone pot and then remove the wire from the redundant one. But if you are having any doubts the best thing to do would be to take it to a repairman. Better safe than sorry.

July 13th, 2008, 12:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
Antigua TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 23	How much would that cost a tech to do? It seems to be a simple procedure even though I can't do it myself. That plus the cost of putting the pickups in?

July 13th, 2008, 07:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
Rob DiStefano Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Park Ridge, NJ Age: 62 Posts: 4,788	My most fave Strat wiring ... As one can see, all the pots are 250k - standard master volume, NO-LOAD master tone w/.022uf cap, NO-LOAD neck pup blender. It's important to use those no-load pots. In the case of the tone, not having a tone pot in the circuit will really fire up the tone of yer pups as yer playing volume increases. Imperative with the neck pup blender so that no trace of the neck pup signal leaks out when turned off. My source for no-load Fender CTS pots has been back ordered for weeks, so I've gone back to modding standard CTS pots to no-load spex. It's really quite easy. Here's an online no-load pictorial by ProjectGuitar ... http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/pots.htm ... I think the tutorial could be done better, but it's got the essence of the mod.

July 14th, 2008, 03:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
Wally Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 4,028	Hello, Antigua....welcome..belatedly, but welcome. Mulligan's post has all you need. Look at your circuit assembly in your guitar. Remove the wires that run from the switch to the tone pots. The potentiometer that is in the middle should look very similar to the one in Mulligan's post. The tone cap and the lead to the pot from the switch may be in opposite positions....no matter. IF you want to take the cap lead to the middle lug and the lead from the volume pot(this lead can be the wire that you disconnected at the switch and ran to this pot) to the outside lug, fine. IF you want to leave the cap lead on the outside lug and bring the lead from the volume pot to the middle lug, that's fine too. There is a bit of difference in what will go on, but both situations are workable. Personally, if I were going to do this, I would move the volume away from the strings and put the tone pot in the 3rd hole a la Bill Carson. I hit that volume pot sometimes...it is a bit close to the strings for me at times. If the guitar has only these two controls, why not move them away that small distance?