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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Age: 62
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Let's do a Sharp dressed Strat.....
Ok . . . so lets try something a but different…. One piece Mahogany…..and well dressed…. a wee bit easier this time since there is no joint…
I have taken a 13 ½ inch wide section of Mahogany. Planed it to the approximate thickness, of 1 7/8 then using the panel sander to take it down to almost 1 ¾ Use the template to trace out the rough shape and bandsaw, or jig saw a basic blank. ![]() I now mount the template firmly… No tape.. I use wood screws…..long ones… ![]() then waddle over to the router table…..and rout…..one side of the edge only at this time… ![]() ![]() The reason I only do half on one edge, is I want to rout the tremolo spring cavity while the template is mounted… I will also drill the neck bolt holes too…. Once that is done I am through with that template…. Ron Kirn
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Friend of Leo's
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So first… drill the bolt holes…. Here’s where some err… use a small square to be certain the table is at 90 Degrees to the drill bit… otherwise. . crooked holes and misaligned screws..
![]() after that or before… whatever you feel like…. Do the tremolo spring rout…. I do it in 2 steps initially.. ![]() once it’s ¾ inch deep, remove the template.. were done with it… Now lets finish the spring rout… I place a block in the slot…. And use a top bearing pattern tracing bit…. Rout ½ of the remaining wood from the cavity.. ![]() then lower the bit to leave 1/8th inch remaining and rout the remainder… ![]() more to come….
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Friend of Leo's
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So now, we give the tremolo rout one more buzz to leave the 1/8th inch remaining at the top.
![]() the awl.. is what I use to indicate the location of the lower rout, so I can be certain the top template is aligned correctly when I get ready to break through the top. But, Actually I jumped the gun,… not at this time….. I have some shaping to do…. So here is where we are… ![]() This body will have a Book matched Flame Maple Veneer applied, so first, I have to do the arm contour…. I indicate the approximate center of the body, because the contours of the Leo Fender years went beyond center… ![]() I indicate that approximate area I want to have the contour roll into the flat top.. ![]() Remember…. The contours are NOT compound… they are flat on one axis while rolling on the other. If you think of a large flat sanding surface, and held the body against it and rolled it only in one direction…. That IS the way Fender did it in the real days.. And on…. Ron Kirn
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Now using a delicate, dainty little tool.. it has a whisper little wirrr…..I remove anything that doesn’t look like a Strat…..
![]() Oh…. I mark the approximate place I want to stop…. Taking wood off is easy.. putting it back… not so… and the language associated with making the discovery that you must…. I hope there are no Kids around… ![]() So once it’s roughed out… I use my high precision contour shaping too; with 32 grit…. ![]() Using it as indicated… it only takes a few strokes to get it close… ![]() More to follow… Ron Kirn
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Now Take a pencil and scribble all over the area of the contour…. The lead will indicate any low areas that haven been sanded yet…
![]() Now, continue sanding.. watching the darkened areas as they disappear.. ![]() As I get close, I’ll change to a finer grade paper, about 80 grit…. And continue until the darkened areas are removed, and the complete area appears evenly sanded.. ![]() Now… I use a tool I store 93 million miles away…. It’s the best indicator you can find…. The shadows will show any areas that aren’t evenly sanded and will reveal any lumps in the continuous roll of the contour… ![]() moving right along… Ron Kirn
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Once the top contour it perfect…. It’s time to move on… I select two sheets of Maple Veneer.. and begin matching it. Book Matched lumber, rarely is….so you have to work with it to get the perfect alignment.
![]() If you use them as they are cut, they look pretty good, but upon close examination, you can see some irregularities… so let’s fix it… ![]() adjust the veneer until you have a good pattern to the grain. And mark where the trim must be.. ![]() align the veneers so the cut will fall down the lines made. I clamp it between 2 pieces of Corian with very flat smooth edges…. And using the router… make the cut… ![]() this gives 2 perfectly flat edges, but before gluing, recheck the grain’s match.. Ron Kirn
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Lord, give me a sense of humor. Give me the grace to see a joke, To get some humor out of life, and pass it on to other folks. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing...... Last edited by Ronkirn; July 1st, 2008 at 09:00 PM. |
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Now recheck the grain.. and recut if necessary.
![]() Remember to consider what will actually be seen, by dealing with the small area a better match can be had.. Don’t forget to mark the body’s center so you can see it once the veneer is applied.. ![]() ![]() Now… match the veneer’s edges… and tape it… into one sheet…. ![]() get the gooey stuff out…. Ron Kirn
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Lord, give me a sense of humor. Give me the grace to see a joke, To get some humor out of life, and pass it on to other folks. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing...... Last edited by Ronkirn; July 1st, 2008 at 09:01 PM. |
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Now cut the shape out of the veneer.. Use scissors, X-Acto knife, whatever…. Glue it all up..
I use good ‘ol yellow wood worker’s glue and a small paint roller. The secret to quality veneering is good complete glue coverage, I roll it on the body first, because it won’t curl up on ya, then on the veneer. ![]() Note the even application.. ![]() then the veneer.. ![]() now smack ‘em together…. Aligning the center seam with the center marks on the body.. ![]() >>>>>> This way…… >>>>>> Ron Kirn
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Lord, give me a sense of humor. Give me the grace to see a joke, To get some humor out of life, and pass it on to other folks. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing...... Last edited by Ronkirn; July 1st, 2008 at 09:03 PM. |
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And….
![]() Now… even consistent pressure is necessary.. you can use vacuum presses, plastic bags and a vacuum cleaner… or clamps…. My choice… I apply a couple of pads I cut from “Non Slip” work table pads… ![]() You will notice the “block” I have made to take up the void left by the curve of the contour. To make it, I took a body, put down a sheet of plastic.. a grocery bag is fine… and filled it in with Auto Body Putty… let it harden and shaped it so the top would be flat with the pads…. The pads are about ½ inch thick so they take up any inaccuracy as the filler block is used with other bodies.. I now put a top plate on the sandwich, this it Masonite… ![]() and begin clamping.. ![]() Hey… No talkin’… follow me please…. Rk
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Lord, give me a sense of humor. Give me the grace to see a joke, To get some humor out of life, and pass it on to other folks. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing...... Last edited by Ronkirn; July 1st, 2008 at 09:09 PM. |
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As you are clamping check and re-check to be certain the center doesn’t drift off center…wet glue is slippery.
Only a few clamps are necessary…. ![]() Now… let it sit over night…. Ron Kirn
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So this is a job that anyone can do, is it?? Apart from anything else, you seem to need about 350 clamps to keep the whole lot together.
I take my hat off to you for having the skill and desire to even start a project like this - I think I'll stick to walking into a store, lifting a guitar off the rack and handing over a credit card if I like it!! So much easier - maybe less satisfying but I just wouldn't want to get into that process. I'd lose patience round about the 5th or 6th photo!!! Good on you for being more skilled than most of us - and certainly me!!
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This is, to coin a term, awesome! ...
Thanks, Ron. Looking forward to every step of this one, too!
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Man, this is going to be one of those threads...
Amazing stuff again Ron. I'm learning by reading, but applying your little tricks proves to be difficult. For example, I couldn't lower the routing bit low enough when I tried to do the body of my latest build. Is it OK to insert the shaft of the router bit not completely to make this possible? I think not, but with my router I can't see another option...
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The reason is during manufacture, the shaft begins taper out toward the body of the bit ever so slightly, perhaps that’s changed today…(no Idea why) but as Cronkite used to say, “That’s the way it is.” Ron Kirn
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Anyone with 100 clamps.... When I do a drop top, I use a piece of 11 ply 3/4" on top and one or two less clamps personally. Ron, any reason why you do not approve of this, just curious. Just betting you have built a few more that I.
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Friend of Leo's
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After we allow it to dry and cure thoroughly, time to peal the layers off. Oh.. note for those not familiar with the way glue works… there are most often 2 stages, drying time… when the moisture diminishes to a point it appears the parts have adhered to each other, or the initial curing, if using CA, Epoxy, Urethane, or other chemically initiated glue, and the second phase where complete curing occurs, this is where the real strength builds up.
There are exceptions, but most glues and/or adhesives we use work as above, and for you chemists, that’s the abbreviated version. Back to guitar building…. It’s pretty ugly at this point… but take a heat gun, hair dryer, or whatever to soften the well stuck tape and remove it…. The heat allows the adhesive to release without pulling fibers or worse, chunks out of the veneer. ![]() Now to the router table to “clean” up the edges.. Note that I have taken little “bites” out of the critical areas to reduce the chance of chipping the veneer.. ![]() Just be certain the router bit is set to allow for the different heights due to the forearm contour… ![]() And we now are ready to resume shaping the body…. ![]() Ron Kirn
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Lord, give me a sense of humor. Give me the grace to see a joke, To get some humor out of life, and pass it on to other folks. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing...... |
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