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Glendale chimemaster - any users?
I just have to know (now that it's on sale!)...has anyone used Glendale's new strat bridge? Any thoughts on it?
I don't have anything to put one on right now, but I've been curious for a little while now. |
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The brass version ought to work great of my Highway One; I just need to cross reference the radius of the fretboard I have on there against the effective radius of these saddles. My neck may be too flat, I may have to switch it out with one of the others I've finished and assembled.
That's a real fair price, but my other strat bodies are either the way I like them already or they are 2 post modern design. Or hardtail. When did the price reduction take effect?
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$ 250 was a fair price, I just think folks were a bit nervous about getting to far ahead of the pack.
$ 149, you betcha I ordered one. These are the same screw spacing just like any other Fender 6 screw body would take, and of course the string array at the bridge is like any vintage tele, it is tweakable. Glen doesn't have too many brass blocks on hand, so don't wait too long. Depending on how it sounds, I may do another trem body from Tommy as I have the neck and loaded pickguard ready to go.
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Well maybe I look at prices different being outside U.S. With taxes and
fees that "Chimemaster" bridge was close to 400 USD. I'm not criticizing Glendale I love his products and price is such a relative thing. For a an educated middle class man in U.S the price might be fair but for a working class "hombre" from Argentina it might seem expensive... |
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I could not find any reviews online of the Glendale Chimemaster. But, being a compulsive idiot myself, I ordered one! Plus, who can resist a good sale.
I know Glendale makes some of the finest guitar parts on earth. I doubt they would produce anything that was not first rate. I already have an awsome reissue Strat, so I can take a chance with the Partsocaster this will be used on. We will see... In the mean time, I would love to hear what anyone that has used one has to say. Mike |
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It's been interesting reading these takes on the chimemaster - I'm also curious to hear from anyone who's already played with one. I *really* want to order one, but even at the sale price, am having a hard time justifying it! I just put a Callaham trem on a partscaster strat, so I don't even have anything crappy to replace, or a new build to put one one! Still, I wants one! When his tele bridges/saddles are so good, I'm dying to play with his strat goodies!
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Mowcheeba:
You may be "trippin", because one has to factor in the Glendale solid brass block, the thin CNC machined plate, and I am assuming the Chimemaster's saddles are a different spec than the Tele saddles. The optimist in me wants to think that Dale slashed the price on the Chimemaster to get a buzz started on his amazing new product. Because, thus far, no one has anything to say. The pessimist in me worries that the Chimemaster is not finding wide appeal, so the sale reflects a need to move stock and move on. A 40% discount helps make it worth the risk. Mike |
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I have a buddy on the Squier 51 modders forum who has installed the three brass barrel mod on a Squier Strat with a trem bridge plate, and was very satisfied with the results.
There's a mod done to various Squier hardtail bridge plates which got started by Mike Levitt here at TDPRI in November, 2004 which involves grafting 3 brass barrels onto the existing bridgeplate. It is growing in popularity and IMO dramatically improves the top loader Squier 51, both in sound and in playability. Glen's Chimemaster is an extension of this 3 brass barrel concept onto a MIM or MIA vintage specs Stratocaster. I think the concept is great. I think the #1 reason why it hadn't happened sooner is most guys who like 3 brass barrels also insist on a Tele format. Conversely, guys who insist on a Strat format simply refuse to pay homage to any attribute so clearly identified with the Telecaster. Call it "sibling rivalry" or whatever you like, I refuse to be trapped in this fashion. As everything I have bought from Glen Dale Clark has met or exceeded my expectations so far, and as I was intending to buy this product at $ 249 soon enough, I decided now would be good, also.
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bridge and think it's as good as Glendale's Chimemaster. I know it is more to his Chimemaster than the Tele saddles and as far as quality Glendale is second to none. |
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The kit is here, it includes everything, and the most mindful thing I can mention is that the saddle diameter is not 5/16s but 1/4, I sure for setup reasons, and this will enable me to use the neck I have on the guitar at present. The brass block is chrome plated, and the whole assembly comes across as fine jewelry. I haven't built it out yet, but it seems like a really nicely made product, as usual.
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for my future Strat build, too many option.....regular hardtail, Glendale Chimemaster, or Callaham's vintage trem bridge. |
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Ok, I have it set up on a Highway One Upgrade with a Warmoth Fatback 1 + 11/16ths rosewood board, 4 trem springs, about .050 clearance between the top of the Callaham hardened mount screws and the Glendale chromed stainless plate, about a sixteenth inch of float, D'Addario 10-46s. Gotoh "klusons", graphtech 1 + 11/16ths precut nut, 6105s in silver nickel.
Standard tuning, no pedals, through a 65 reissue Twin at about 4. Excellent, excellent, excellent. The 10-16 radius means the saddles are slanted but just barely tilted, very good string height and action, intonation right on. Big acoustic Strat tone, some Tele flavor but this is still a trem Strat, no doubt. Big juicy sound, warm friendly tone at high volumes, loads of sustain and the strings, the notes seem very manageable, very user friendly. Only thing left to do is maybe a Callaham base plate on the bridge pickup. I am not a wild whammy guy, so I can't predict how long a chromed steel whammy bar threaded into a brass block will do, but otherwise I am very very impressed.
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Bubban0v Last edited by boris bubbanov : April 29th, 2008 at 11:39 PM. |
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Boris:
That is GREAT news! My Chimemaster went out USPS today. I ordered the model with the brass saddles and block. That is what you have, correct? Also, were you able to use the same 6 tremolo screw holes already in the HWY ! body? I am glad to hear one still gets a Strat tone too. Wow, I am really excited to get my Partsocaster assembled. I have an Allparts FAT neck with a rosewood board being finished right now. I gotta feeling this is going to turn out GREAT! Mike |
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different than the Tele ones and great that you did not experience any intonation probems. You have got to post pictures when you are done with it.... |
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I used the hardened 6 mount screws from Bill Callaham, I don't know if the ones from Glen are hardened; they're still in the bag. I like this sound better than my MIM with a Callaham steel block, better than a Cubic Zirc Strat with a big neck, and better than my Jimmie Vaughan. I am quite impressed especially with positions 2 and 4. Frankly 1, 3 and 5 are much better; I'm just able to run the guitar and amp so loud that the hum becomes a big factor, at least with these Highway One pickups.
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Thank you Boris:
One question I did not make clear was: Were you able to use the screw hole pattern that was (I assume) already drilled into your HWY 1 body from the original tremolo? If not, how did you fill the old screw holes? The reason I ask, is that I may have to source a new body for this build now and I would like to get it right this time. I was originally hoping to use a brand new Squire Deluxe body I have. But, when I borrowed the neck from my CIJ 58 Reissue Srat to see if it fit the Squire body, it did NOT! The flat back portion of the CIJ neck laid flush against the flat portion of the pocket, but would not snug down into the pocket near the neck pup area and left a gap. I pressured it as hard as I dare and it was still a no go. The 4 neck screws would not line up due to this fittment issue. I am a little skeptical about the Allparts neck fitting when I get it. I may have to suck it up and spend more $$ to get an ALLPARTS BODY. Do you have any advice on this? Mike |
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The Highway One bridge mount screw hole pattern was perfect and gave me a perfect fit. I would expect any reissue MIA or MIM Fender, basically any MIM Fender trem Strat except the Classic Player 50's and 60's to also accept this assembly with no difficulty. I can't guarantee you what other trem arms might work, but otherwise the saddles seem to articulate enough to accomodate any pole piece stagger or any fretboard radius from 7.25 to conical 10-16. With a string array of 1 + 3/8ths at the nut on a 1 + 11/16ths neck, string spacing along the neck is as well preserved as you will see on any vintage specs bridge assembly, and this means full optimal use of the fender us spread bridge pickup. Same ol same ol on the neck and bridge polepieces; the Keystone Strat pole piece spacing would be better but it would be on basically any Strat.
The plate is beautifully made and sits down sweet and low just above the trem rout, maybe a 32nds of an inch float with 4 springs and the claw in over half way. The plate is thick enough to be stiff but thin enough to let the rest of the guitar pieces have their say; the block is full sized and has plenty of heft. The whole thing went together with the minimum effort, no hassles. No "stiffness" at all in this setup; crisp and yet lounge-y. I got a chance to play it a bit against my Am Se Cubic Zirc with the Callaham CG saddles, steel block and Gilmore trem arm (stock neck with Gotoh "klusons") and with the exception of the trem arm, I like the Chimemaster better at this point. And these are stock H1U Alnico 3 overwound pickups. Sounds great cranked up though the RI Twin on 4.5, EQs around 7 each with the Strat tones and volume dimed.
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Bubban0v Last edited by boris bubbanov : April 30th, 2008 at 01:23 PM. |
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As soon as I saw the Sale info., I didn't even read the next post before opening a new browser to go to Glendale and put one of those bad boys in the cart. I'll worry about a build for it to go on, later...
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Boris,
I have been reading your posts with great interest. I was waiting for someone to tell the story on these things. I want to use them is 3 builds I have going but that is a lot of money to spend on the unknown?? I ordered one for starters. It is going on a VERY special build that will get detailed on the Tele forum. Thanks for the review and if there are anythings that I should be aware of regarding the Chimemaster go ahead and PM me. Thanks again for the review. Arlo |
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TDPRI Member
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My Glendale Chimemaster arrived in the mail today. It is a beautiful apparatus. The level of quality is very high. And, although I have developed a love for the Stratocaster, I would definitely like to add a little Telecaster clarity, articulation, and chime to my assembly project.
I am pretty confident that the Chimemaster will be the most outstanding feature of my new guitar. I am just waiting on my Allparts SRO_FAT neck to get things started. Mike |
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I am really diggin on this thing; I really like this a lot, the most fun I've had playing a Stratocaster in a long time. A big twangy Strat, who'd a thunk it.
I am palming the bridge plate, which sit real low but is definitely floating, and getting some real nice expression out of it on top of the great tone with the Twin. Played through the Gibson GA-5 I have to turn it down a lot to keep it from breakin up the amp, way more than any other Strat and the pickups are not that high. I do not have the trem arm on it at all at this point. I'm gonna let somebody else decide how durable this will be, a chromed steel arm screwed into a brass block. If you want steel to steel, order Dale's steel block version.
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I think the trem arm Dale is supplying with this kit is an ordinary white tip US 10/32nds trem arm, chrome plated steel. I tried substituting the Custom short trem arm from Bill Callaham's American Standard bridge assembly kit on the Chimemaster. It threads in just fine, except the height of the arm is maybe 5/8ths higher than Bill intended because of the radically different ( and better ) way Bill's arm recesses into the Callaham sleeved trem block. But it does work way better than the stock Fender one, none of that wobble we |