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Old January 3rd, 2008, 01:20 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Another vote for the Rocktron Short Timer
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 10:16 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I'm another fan of rack mount delays from the '80's. I use an Ibanez DM-2000 Digital Delay or the Harmonics Delay from the same series. The DM-2000 has an loop so you could patch in an EQ to darken the repeats. Probably overkill for your needs, but I like it. Dickey Betts uses a DM-1000.

It lives in my PA rack, but I have an old Yamaha SPX 90 II that does good delays without sounding too sterile. I also have a Roland Space Echo that cost me about as much as a used Dan-Echo. The gear gods were smiling on me that day!
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Old January 4th, 2008, 07:11 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Another option

Send your digital delay to Analogman to add a "warm" switch. Basically rolls of the highs so that the repeats aren't so sterile. Does it make it a DM-2? No, but it does give you a nice warm slapback.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 03:53 PM   #44 (permalink)
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late to the party here, but i like the AD-9.

it's actually the only pedal i use.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 05:34 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Send your digital delay to Analogman to add a "warm" switch. Basically rolls of the highs so that the repeats aren't so sterile. Does it make it a DM-2? No, but it does give you a nice warm slapback.


Hell, I could probably do that myself... I built a TS808 clone, perhaps I can mod my own BOSS RV-3.

I don't think they make them anymore (combo Reverb and Delay pedal) and mine is in mint condition, so I'd hate to ruin it :)

If I could mellow out the Reverb on it too, that would be a bonus... it is bright, harsh, and stiff/sterile.

Any thoughts on where I could find a BOSS RV-3 schematic or a place with mod help on it?
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Old January 4th, 2008, 06:23 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Love the little Dano PB&J.
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Old January 4th, 2008, 11:40 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I have gotten decent slap back echo with my RP pedals but maybe what I think is decent others may not. I only want that short slap signal too.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 01:14 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Danelectro BLT, slap back echo.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 03:28 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Danelectro BLT, slap back echo.


IDK, its a bit simple.

I've already got a BOSS RV-3 Delay, which has more control over Mix, Delay, Feedback as well as switches for Delay ms options (not to mention Delay plus Reverb options).

I'm looking for something a bit more vintage and/or deluxe. If I can dial in less "digital" or harsh sounding repeats that'd be very cool.
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IDK, its a bit simple.

I've already got a BOSS RV-3 Delay, which has more control over Mix, Delay, Feedback as well as switches for Delay ms options (not to mention Delay plus Reverb options).

I'm looking for something a bit more vintage and/or deluxe. If I can dial in less "digital" or harsh sounding repeats that'd be very cool.
The BLT definitely sounds like that, but no control over delay time. If you want time control, the Dan-Echo is pretty good, despite the bad buffer.

But for JUST a slapback, vintagey sounding, the BLT really surprised me. It's no AD-999, but it's better than my SIB Echodrive at the vintagey thing.
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Old January 5th, 2008, 12:46 PM   #51 (permalink)
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ARION SAD-1 Analog under $100.00 yes it is plastic but I have three and one I bought new in mid 80's, has never failed me looks beat.
It does slapback great and in Stereo I ran this with two amps!!
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Old January 11th, 2008, 09:13 AM   #52 (permalink)
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A few months back I bought a Pretty Dolly by Moen. This was a eBay purchase, that was $50.-$60. It's not the best unit but it does just what I want it to do and that is a slight slap-back or just a little longer delay. It works good going into the front end of the amp or in the effects loop.
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Old January 11th, 2008, 09:39 AM   #53 (permalink)
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The Dano mini pedal, I think it is called a PB&J or soemthing, is pretty good sounding for short rockabilly slapback and to fatten the signal a bit. I'm sure there are better pedals out there for slapback, but they are about $20 on ebay and for that price you can't go wrong.
The PB&J may just be the best at recreating the tone of Echoplex with an old tape.

The Ibanez DE-7 hands down is the best I have found for recreating the tone of the Echoplex with a clean tape.
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Old January 11th, 2008, 09:40 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Send your digital delay to Analogman to add a "warm" switch. Basically rolls of the highs so that the repeats aren't so sterile. Does it make it a DM-2? No, but it does give you a nice warm slapback.
Good the DM-2 is way over hyped...
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Old January 11th, 2008, 11:31 PM   #55 (permalink)
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For $20 Monte Allums sells a mod kit for the Boss DD-3 that does the same thing as the Analogman mod. Go to: http://www.monteallums.com
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Old January 13th, 2008, 11:42 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm a big fan of the Ibanez AD-9 RI. If rolled-off highs is what you're after, it's got it in spades - to the point where I kept my Guyatron digital delay for when I feel like it's a bit too much.

Honestly, the AD-9 is like the opposite of the Boss pedals. It's distinctly lo-fi in comparison, and I like that a lot. It's the only pedal that I use with any consistency.
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Old January 19th, 2008, 06:09 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Old January 19th, 2008, 06:12 PM   #58 (permalink)
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The Ibanez DE7 can do old school slap-back-style echo very well in addition to digital delay. It's relatively cheap too, $70 at Musician's Friend.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 05:45 AM   #59 (permalink)
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i find my dano blt slapecho very cool sounding for that rockabilly thing in my home-board. it was very cheap. in my real rig i have an ibanez da 99 ( the big black box with the purple finger) and it sounds huge! i found that cheap and used.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 03:45 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Well, What you get Johnny? Do tell.

I have the Dan Echo. It sounds great. The High rolloff knob works really really well. It can go warmer than you'd want, or dial back in a little brightness to taste.

This pedal does take a little tone away. Honestly, I NEVER noticed it until I specifically tested it. I did some research on the topic and found out that the buffer used isn't up to par and cuts off some highs. There are mods to correct this floating around.

But still, I'm quite happy, until something better comes along that doesn't cost an arm and leg.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 04:04 PM   #61 (permalink)
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tried the Carl Martin Red Repeats today, nice, but a bit difficult to use and really not that warm sounding
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Old May 14th, 2008, 07:55 PM   #62 (permalink)
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This pedal does take a little tone away. Honestly, I NEVER noticed it until I specifically tested it. I did some research on the topic and found out that the buffer used isn't up to par and cuts off some highs. There are mods to correct this floating around.

But still, I'm quite happy, until something better comes along that doesn't cost an arm and leg.
+1 on the DanEcho, it does suck a tiny bit of the top end "ice pick" highs, but with the Bardens in my Tele that's not necessarily a bad thing. They've got plenty of high frequency to spare.

Brian, I would be interested to hear more about the buffer mods though, is there someone selling a kit for the DanEcho ?

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Old May 14th, 2008, 08:07 PM   #63 (permalink)
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But still, I'm quite happy, until something better comes along that doesn't cost an arm and leg.
What's your definition of arm and a leg? I picked up a Dan Echo used a little while ago and it developed a weird rattling noise... that was an arm and a leg for me! LOL So, I grabbed an MXR carbon copy at 149 and couldn't be happier! It's just about the most I've ever spent on a pedal... cause I really am a cheap bast**d! But I think it works like I paid a lot more than that for it!
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Old May 14th, 2008, 08:25 PM   #64 (permalink)
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To add more fodder... the Line6 Echo Park is incredibly versatile and can easily be used for a great slapback sound in addition to the bagillion other sounds you can get. In fact, the first time I took it to a jam, a buddy used it and said right away "the slapback setting is worth the price of admission alone." I love the tap tempo feature. If I don't like the delay setting I can change it quick and easy without having to stop playing.

I think I got mine used for $80 or $85.

I used to use a Dan Echo, which I also loved. I love the Echo Park more.
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+1 on the firstact delay.Way better than it should be for the $$$.Its taken place over my boss DD3 on the pedalboard (which probable means squat to anyone reading this, but I had a thing for that boss...yesiree!).

low on street cred though (my mates were asking 1st wha??!?).
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